Learners on motorway?

[kerr]

Heard on the radio the other day they were planning to allow learners on motorways to be implemented by the summer, anybody else heard this?, cant find anything on DVLA website.
Wondering if this will allow cbt riders too.
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[iMark]

They are on about learner drivers, with the instructor in the car with them as far as I know
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"G" : you got him to have a look at a forum which seems to have established a picture of an erect penis in a cat's mouth as it's mascot and thought he might consider it ok?

[kerr]

Didnt think it would include riders tbh, mores the pity
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[Alpha-9]

There was a massive thread about this ....

Can't find it
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[felicity]

[iMark]

Its not rocket science how to use a motorway

Would be nice if CBT holders could use it though, assuming they're on a bike capable of being on it at least.
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"G" : you got him to have a look at a forum which seems to have established a picture of an erect penis in a cat's mouth as it's mascot and thought he might consider it ok?

[Davo]

I've never quite understood the motorway restrictions for learners, most of the A class roads around here are 3 lane roads anyway. My sister passed her car test recently, but panics the moment she goes anywhere near a motorway.

It should be part of the driving test as far as I'm concerned.

Although not entirely sure how safe I'd feel on a 125 4 stroke at motorway speeds.

[kerr]

[Rogerborg]

Dunno if it'll apply to riders under tuition, I can't see anything on the DfT site.

It's coming from Mike "the bike" Penning though, so I'd be hopeful that he's thought about it.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

For cars they are saying with a qualified instructor and dual controls.

All the best

Keith
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[snikks]

Not sure if I really think that CBT riders should be allowed on in any case - seems like a great way for them to manage to kill themselves and probably somebody else too. Perhaps learner motorcyclists in radio contact with a qualified instructor, similar to the rules for getting onto a 125+ as a learner.
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[kerr]

[Alpha-9]

Motorways are pretty safe really, everyone is going a pretty constant speed, the road is well maintained mostly, straight with big wide lanes.

As long as everyone follows the rules and knows their braking distances there wouldn't be a problem.

But as it happens, so many people are shit and some how scared of the mythical beast that is the motorway, that they get all tense about it, its not snake way, its a big flat road, it's just in the lane changes, but noone wants to die so everyones fairly safe D:


That's coming from me who has no experience on motorways as a driver, but still, fuck.

I'd have no problem going down the motorway on my YBR, other than the health of my bike and the fact I don't have protective clothing

You're more stable the faster you're going mostly anyway surely
It's when it comes to braking and turning you can fuck up, front brake + motorway =


I'd definitely say a roundabout or a duel carriageway is more dangerous - Duel carriageways have less space than motorways and are less well looked after seemingly
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[Walloper]

[Rogerborg]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Was mentioned in the BBC report I linked to earlier.

All the best

Keith
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[Jersum]

The first time I went4 on a motorway after passing was with a pillion passenger at about 11pm, it pretty much just a dual carriageway, no real reason to be scared of them.
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[J.M.]

[pendulum]

Allowing learners will be more fuel for the anti-speed brigade to use in their campaign against raising the limit.

I think it should be changed so that if you're a full car licence holder, you can ride a bike on L plates on the motorway (because you have proven your skills already), and if you are a full motorcycle licence holder, you should be able to do the same in a car.

But learners going for their first licence... keep them off.

[Rogerborg]

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[Kickstart]

Hi

The idea of a learner rider going on a motorway and changing lanes using just the mirrors after years of getting away with it in a car is a bit worrying.

All the best

Keith
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[Rogerborg]

But since motorway riding doesn't form part of the test, people are every bit as likely to do that anyway 5 minutes after the L plates come off.

Let's be honest, in terms of teaching and testing roadcraft, the current UK motorcycle regime is a complete bass akwards joke..

Solo L riding based on nothing more than a CBT and optimism, then theory then a couple of tests that only cover the things that your very presence at the test centre already demonstrates that you can do. Sooner or later some H&S wonk is going to look at that and ejaculate "Heyyyyyy, wait a minute!"
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