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Symon27
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Diabetic riders? Reply with quote
Is anyone else a diabetic who rides?
I've been a diabetic for 10years and was just wondering how others get on with riding being a diabetic?
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nearly everyone from my old bike club became (or were a lifelong) diabetic. I now believe that being a non diabetic biker is a minority.

One of them lost a foot last year, but to be fair he was over 70. I don't think he's got back on his bike yet. The rest just inject in a quiet corner occasionally or test themselves whilst we are eating out somewhere.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why would being a diabetic really affect what you do in life, life riding a bike?

What do you mean by 'get on'? Taking meds?, bike control? risk of hypo/hyper episode?
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Diabetic riders? Reply with quote
Symon27 wrote:
Is anyone else a diabetic who rides?
I've been a diabetic for 10years and was just wondering how others get on with riding being a diabetic?


I've been diabetic for 11 years, riding for me is the same as it is for everyone ! I always carry pure orange juice and insulin on me incase of emergencies ;D other then that it's the same as anyone! why do you ask buddy?
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
map wrote:
Why would being a diabetic really affect what you do in life, life riding a bike?

What do you mean by 'get on'? Taking meds?, bike control? risk of hypo/hyper episode?


If your condition is insulin controlled then you will not get insurance even to drive a car until you have stable control of blood sugar.

Hypos and sudden faint are limiting factors for control of equipment.

It is not a fully understood area and new cases later in life can take longer to control etc.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was just wondering how you get on really lol, I always carry something sweet on and my insulin if I'm going out ot for a while.
I've only ever been caught out once when I had a hypo and pulled up at the nearest shop. Dose anyone carry anything on them like a medical bracelet?
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Walloper wrote:
map wrote:
Why would being a diabetic really affect what you do in life, life riding a bike?

What do you mean by 'get on'? Taking meds?, bike control? risk of hypo/hyper episode?


If your condition is insulin controlled then you will not get insurance even to drive a car until you have stable control of blood sugar.


Rubbish.

What CAN happen is that your GP decides that your lack of control makes you unsafe to drive and he/she won't sign off your form to keep your driving license (must renew every 1-3 years)

Insurance have no say in it.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Symon27 wrote:
I was just wondering how you get on really lol, I always carry something sweet on and my insulin if I'm going out ot for a while.
I've only ever been caught out once when I had a hypo and pulled up at the nearest shop. Dose anyone carry anything on them like a medical bracelet?


Tube of glucogel in all my jackets, bottle of lucozade in the top box. I got a velcro wrist wrap from roadid.com with my basic info on as I tend to leave wallet etc in my backpack/box because I don't 100% trust the zips for waterproofness.

Always test before I ride/drive.
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have been type 1 diabetic from birth & although my licenses are renewed 3 yearly - unless a change in condition occurs I have never encountered any problems - I have car, bike & hgv1 license.

So long as you're upfront & declare ALL conditions that apply, being a diabetic need not stop you doing anything in life whatsoever & anyone who tells you different is just stereotyping a specific person.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
mgh0 wrote:
Rubbish.

What CAN happen is that your GP decides that your lack of control makes you unsafe to drive and he/she won't sign off your form to keep your driving license (must renew every 1-3 years)

Insurance have no say in it.


Not rubbish baw heid

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-diabetes/Living_with_diabetes/insurance/Motor_insurance/

The situation relating to car insurance for people with diabetes has improved greatly over the past few years. Most car insurance companies no longer penalise people with diabetes by charging higher premiums. If you feel that you are being discriminated against, complain to your insurance company. If you are not satisfied with their response, switch to another company. There are plenty to choose from and you can transfer your no claims bonus to your new company. It's a good idea to obtain at least three quotes.

When applying for car insurance you must declare all 'material facts'. Diabetes is a material fact, so you need to declare it.

The main danger of diabetes and driving is the possibility of having a hypoglycaemic episode (hypo), which could impair your judgement and lead to an accident. Although this is very rare, it can and does happen.

Your driving licence and the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority (DVLA) – things to note
You are only required to inform the DVLA if your diabetes is controlled by insulin. You are not required to inform the DVLA if your diabetes is controlled by tablets or diet alone. But we always recommend that on first diagnosis you inform the DVLA of your condition. You will keep your full driving licence unless your diabetes is controlled by insulin. If it is controlled by insulin, you will be issued with a licence lasting 1–3 years. Further details about this can be found in the Driving section of the website.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Walloper wrote:
...for car insurance you must declare all 'material facts'. Diabetes is a material fact, so you need to declare it.
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...You are only required to inform the DVLA if your diabetes is controlled by insulin...

Slightly off-topic but until we are actually controlled by the big corporations as in the future version in the TV series Perception (although some will say we already are) then if a government agency doesn't require the information (ref: type 2 diabetes) why should a private company demand and have more personal information?
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
map wrote:
Walloper wrote:
...for car insurance you must declare all 'material facts'. Diabetes is a material fact, so you need to declare it.
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...You are only required to inform the DVLA if your diabetes is controlled by insulin...

Slightly off-topic but until we are actually controlled by the big corporations as in the future version in the TV series Perception (although some will say we already are) then if a government agency doesn't require the information (ref: type 2 diabetes) why should a private company demand and have more personal information?


Because the government don't care?
We all know government is run by 'amatuers' and slack-arses.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
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...government is run by 'amatuers' and slack-arses.

I'm sure all the Sir Humphrey Appleby's will be appalled by such a description of their professional standards Wink

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PostPosted: 17:52 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah insurance aren't allowed to hike prices or refuse you just for being diabetic, unless medical professional says you're unfit then you just can't have a license,

that's called discrimination!

I don't have the bracelet, but I have the green sticker on my helmet with the little info card in side with my details on !
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Amnesty wrote:
Yeah insurance aren't allowed to hike prices or refuse you just for being diabetic, unless medical professional says you're unfit then you just can't have a license,

that's called discrimination!

I don't have the bracelet, but I have the green sticker on my helmet with the little info card in side with my details on !


My post re-insurance is still good coz if you ain't got a licence then you aint' gunna git insurance.

But true they cannot discriminate. Most responsible people will NOT drive if they feel the risk of hypo is to unpredictable. Some folk get very little warning of sugar drop as their body gets accustomed to lower sugar until it reaches low level and it's lights out.
It is a courageous existence living with it. One arse of a thing that gets very low attention in general. I think mainly because most people manage or muddle through.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Been diabetic (type 1 ) for over 20yrs, never been a problem, just do what I normally do which is control my levels and carrry dextrose sweets or a bottle of lucozade for emergencies. Also wear a dog tag listing my condition in case of ending up in hospital for any reason.

No handicap to riding or driving a car or anything else for that matter.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kwakerz wrote:
Been diabetic (type 1 ) for over 20yrs, never been a problem, just do what I normally do which is control my levels and carrry dextrose sweets or a bottle of lucozade for emergencies. Also wear a dog tag listing my condition in case of ending up in hospital for any reason.

No handicap to riding or driving a car or anything else for that matter.


^^^ Just emphasises my earlier points. I can honestly say that the only occasion my condition has ever caused an "issue"was with a former employer who was ,
1, oblivious to the needs of a diabeteic
2, couldn't give a toss about his responsibilities as an employer - any employer has a @ Duty of care @ whilst you are in their employment & once I'd quoted to him how he was being discriminate under the DDA Act, he soon came around to what was required of him/by him.

Absolutely never had any issue of any sort re: licences etc:
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I got diagnosed in January, I've lost 6 1/2 stone since then, and they told me that basically I am no longer Diabetic, but because of that original diagnosis I will be classed as a type 2 Diabetic for the rest of my life. Sad
had a friend who was type 1, lost touch for a few years, bumped into him last year again and the glaucoma has sent him blind. he's only in his 30s too.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
The latest legislation from our friends in Europe is if You have more
than two hypo's a year you are required by law to inform the DVLA.
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I'm a psychiatrist not a GP but I do know diabetes affects different people in many different ways.
Some folk have sweaty feet some don't.

Some live with insulin controlled diabetes with practically NO burden and some are not as lucky and need to do frequent checks of sugar before insulin as their particular situation is not as stable.

Stupid things such as the common cold can throw regular/normal sugar/insulin control out the window which can then exacerbate the infection and recovery.

So it is NOT a simple "Oh you are diabetic? Don't you simply control that with injections?
People have to live with it forever.
Complications are frequent and difficult to prevent if control is not maintained.

It has not been treated succesfully for very long only 50 years or so. So the science is still learning.
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PostPosted: 05:42 - 08 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
i.p.phrealy wrote:
I got diagnosed in January, I've lost 6 1/2 stone since then, and they told me that basically I am no longer Diabetic, but because of that original diagnosis I will be classed as a type 2 Diabetic for the rest of my life. Sad


Read this:
https://www.amazon.com/Syndrome-Complete-Nutritional-Program-Resistance/dp/0471398586

I was briefly Type 2 last year for a while, no longer even classified as "pre-diabetic"
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ZRX61 wrote:
i.p.phrealy wrote:
I got diagnosed in January, I've lost 6 1/2 stone since then, and they told me that basically I am no longer Diabetic, but because of that original diagnosis I will be classed as a type 2 Diabetic for the rest of my life. Sad


Read this:
https://www.amazon.com/Syndrome-Complete-Nutritional-Program-Resistance/dp/0471398586

I was briefly Type 2 last year for a while, no longer even classified as "pre-diabetic"


But read this before you buy-into-this

https://www.amazon.com/Syndrome-Complete-Nutritional-Program-Resistance/product-reviews/0471398586/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

For serious conditions it is normally BEST to go by Drs, orders. Diabeties is one of the conditions that can whittle away at you without symptoms until irriversible damage is done.

Diet-Shmyet. The CORRECT diet for you is a balanced diet that you can eat any day for ever. Not a Fad that you torture yourself to maintain. Food can be enjoyed not endured.
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