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SteveB1066
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 01 May 2012    Post subject: 5 Day Intensive Direct Access Course Reply with quote

Hi

I am looking to take a 5 day intensive Direct Access course with the exams on the final day.

I do not have a bike yet, so need everzthing included. Please can some people offer recommendations of where to go. I was about to book with Circuit Based Training at Mallory Park but I am seeing some bad reviews on the bikes etc.

Any recommendations are really welcomed.
PS I am pretty free to travel anywhere in the country.

Thnaks
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PostPosted: 06:12 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bloke who runs this company used to work at my place - doesn't have many failures.

Hampshire based.

https://www.mctraining.org/
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PostPosted: 07:06 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did mine at bikewize in Surrey, they were great, would recommend them any day.
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PostPosted: 07:36 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

inb4TM

'intensive direct access' is the worst route into biking. You learn very little and have a slim chance of passing the exam (if you have no prior experience of the road/biking).

If you can afford an intensive DA course you can afford a DA course spread out over a month. Believe me this is so much easier. You need time to 'digest learnings'.

Despite being desperate to strike out on 2 wheels, exercise a little patience. 2013 is still 7 months away.
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nop wrote:
inb4TM

'intensive direct access' is the worst route into biking. You learn very little and have a slim chance of passing the exam (if you have no prior experience of the road/biking).



Thumbs Down Disagree.
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PostPosted: 08:23 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been to Mallory for a bit of practice and knee-down.
The bikes they have are in the process of being replaced - speak to Sean about it.

I have been to another school where the clutch cable snapped 30 minutes in to a lesson so your mileage will vary with all schools!

Just make sure that you're comfortable with the pace at which you're learning and that you are being taught well by instructors who care about your safety and proficiency.

All the best!
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nop wrote:
inb4TM

'intensive direct access' is the worst route into biking. You learn very little and have a slim chance of passing the exam (if you have no prior experience of the road/biking).


Yeah this is just not true.

It might be the worst route into biking in your opinion, and it certainly has some disadvantages (that no doubt will be listed by tef shortly... Thumbs Up ) but the slim chance of passing, that is just bollocks, especially for people moving onto riding after driving a car for many years.

When you take away the rules of the road, there is relatively little to learn to pass a bike test. Having a DAS license doesnt mean you have to rush out and buy a CBR600RR as your first bike, you can buy a YBR125 and "continue learning" on that. You will have more training than a standard newbie straight out of a CBT to boot...

Personally I don't see any advantages of spreading the DAS course out (especially if you don't own a bike) unless you get stressed out by the prospect of 5 days solid riding - yes, it's mentally knackering, but it is really fun too.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nop wrote:
'intensive direct access' is the worst route into biking. You learn very little and have a slim chance of passing the exam (if you have no prior experience of the road/biking).


*shrug* worked fine for me, and I only did the four day intensive course, I guess it helped that I'd ridden bikes before (although not much on road and not at all for a few years before the course) and I've been a car driver for many years with at least a reasonable level of road knowledge..

The place I took the course at was great, nice atmosphere with good trainers and a reasonably high pass rate, I'd say I had an advantage at the start of the course with knowing how a bike worked, what levers did what and such, but one of the two guys who did the course at the same time as me hadn't sat on a bike before and did fine.

The intensive course for me was the only way to do it, I can book a week off work with no issues but arranging a half-day off once a week for two months? no chance. Plus, it was a confidence thing with me, spending four days solid working on it is a lot better for me than one hour lessons over time.


Kingstondavo wrote:
When you take away the rules of the road, there is relatively little to learn to pass a bike test. Having a DAS license doesnt mean you have to rush out and buy a CBR600RR as your first bike, you can buy a YBR125 and "continue learning" on that. You will have more training than a standard newbie straight out of a CBT to boot...


this is a very valid point.. although I rushed out and bought a 900cc bike, but it's a very valid point Smile
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anywhere in the country? Really?


Fine a good one close to home, renting hotels etc soon adds up and the quality of training you receive is training centre specific, not county specific.

It's also pretty tiring, it's a lot to take in so even though it is only 6 or so hours a day it feels like a lot more because you are concentrating hard and riding for a lot of it. Crashing in a hotel is never as good as crashing in your own bed.


Have you decided on a bike yet?
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with Donny, even though he is usually wrong Mr. Green

Better off joining the local area group sub forum and asking there, and posting in the section for new bikers, not the general bike chat. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nop wrote:
inb4TM

'intensive direct access' is the worst route into biking. You learn very little and have a slim chance of passing the exam (if you have no prior experience of the road/biking).



What utter shit.

OT: As already said - join the local sub group part of the forums - you will find it easy to start a rapport and find a decent training school.

Unless your an utter dislikeable cock, you will find some ride out mates too / folk on hand to offer advice and help you fix your bike etc etc
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL as the DASFAGS getting upperty Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nop wrote:
inb4TM

'intensive direct access' is the worst route into biking. You learn very little and have a slim chance of passing the exam (if you have no prior experience of the road/biking).

If you can afford an intensive DA course you can afford a DA course spread out over a month. Believe me this is so much easier. You need time to 'digest learnings'.

Despite being desperate to strike out on 2 wheels, exercise a little patience. 2013 is still 7 months away.


Doing a DAS course worked fine for me, too. I went from zero experience (apart from last having ridden a push-bike about ten years before), to doing a CBT and passing my big-bike test with no minors in five days' worth of lessons.

I liked the relentless (if tiring) nature of the course; it didn't give me a chance to lapse into any bad habits. And my instructor took a real-world attitude to tuition, too; he taught us how to ride as well as how to pass the test. Well, as much as he could in a week, anyway.

If you're the type of person who takes things in better when they're taught in a big block, then I'd say go for the DAS course.

I learned at Metropolis in London and was very happy - we got two nights' hire of a 125cc bike as part of the cost, which made practicing easier.

And no, I don't work there. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some places do residential courses. Was something we considered when me 'n' OH were looking to do our tests.
Just tap 'residential course motorcycle' into google.
One, in Bristol, offers free accomodation in their on-site caravans.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A intensive course would be best i would have thought. It doesnt give you the chance to pick up any bad habits like you would if you rode a 125 around for 2 months first.

Take your cbt and see how you feel about it then. People learn in there own way. I know i wouldnt be able to do an intensive course because i cant absorb that much information in a week.
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SteveB1066
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 02 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Does anyone esle have any experiences with Mallory Park I was quite keen to use them.

Thanks
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Sean CBT
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 18 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I run the course at Mallory Park and am happy to put the record straight regarding anything.
We do have a very good reputation with the majority of clients and are always looking to improve with new bikes / radios etc for this year.

Happy to discuss / answer any questions you may have

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PostPosted: 15:24 - 18 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been said in other ways on her by better people than me but: I think the real reason that intensive DAS should me maligned is that people often coming out of them thinking that they're the dogs bollox and are ready to kick arse on any kind of bike out there. They they proceed to maim themselves buy riding outside their level of roadcraft.

(perhaps trying to get rid of their "chicken strips" (that other BCF members teased them about))


Moral: DAS is fine as long as you accept that you are still a rookie and will continue to be one for several years.

(I a rookie)
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 18 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
LOL as the DASFAGS getting upperty Laughing


REAL riders do A2 Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 18 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 19 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nop wrote:
'intensive direct access' is the worst route into biking. You learn very little and have a slim chance of passing the exam (if you have no prior experience of the road/biking)


As said already - untrue!

The school I used to work at had a first time pass rate of above 95% for 5 day DAS last year. We turned out some very competent and safe riders. It's all about the quality of your instructor...
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