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 Posted: 16:00 - 20 May 2012 Post subject: WK 125 Sport |
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Hello,
Just joined this forum so hello!
I'm 17 and have been riding an Aprilia RS50. Looking to go to a 125cc motorbike and thought and I'd come here for some advice.
I'm torn between second hand and a new bike. The RS50 caused me a lot of problems due to previous owners but I guess you win some and loose some when it comes to buying second hand eh?
Anyway, going down the path of a new bike I am considering the WK 125 Sport - https://www.scootercentral.co.uk/products.asp?ProdID=360
My main reason is it's not to pricey, something I can just about afford. I was just wondering if anyone had any advice/reviews on this bike or if anyone has one themselves. Also from googling the bike I've noticed near enough all of them have the Scorpion Exhaust instead of the stock one. I'm no expert when it comes to bikes and was just wondering if people thought that it would be a huge bonus to get one of these if I do buy this bike. I think they retail at about 250 pound. So that would be about 2000 for the bike itself and the exhaust.
Would be nice to hear from some of you!
Thanks,
Sam.
Edit: Also if anyone else could recommend any other 125s that they think are worth it let me know!  |
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The Scopion exhaust is actually being offered as a free upgrade atm. Well worth it too
The WK feels pretty good when you sit on it in the showroom - its big and feels pretty solid but alas I cant tell you what it is to ride as I don't know anyone who owns one. There are a couple of tests of these bikes online if you google it. They seem to get rated as alright-but-not-as-quick-as-you'd-think.
They are Chinese built and so have that element of risk about them - spares availabilty could be a problem if the recession were to claim the importer and the general feeling around here is that being chinese it is going need those spares at some point!
My Verdict - Looks great in the showroom but lets see if its still intact in 3 years time. Possibly a 3 year old CBR would be a better buy in the long run if you can find one! ____________________ 2012 Zontes Monster |
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Old Enough to get a 125 = Old enough to get a licence & ANY size bike you like.
That WK looks to me like a Skyjet CBR copy, some of which have C90 based engines in them rather than CG125 derived engines, and ALL are bog slow, and crap build. Ie 55mph.
£2K is cheap, to buy, but cost will be when you come to sell and you would be licky to get back between 1/4 & 1/2 of that.
Yamaha are offering brand new YBR125's at the moment with £200 cash back, making them £2300. THAT is where my money would go on a new bike. Year on you'd still loose big chunk of dosh to depreciation, but you wouldn't loose as much, more readily find a buyer, and you would have a bike that could genuinely do 65mph and not give you so many hassles in the mean-time.
However, crunching numbers & looking at calenders...
7+bit months until impending 3rd directive licence laws. Right now, do your 'standard-bike' tests on qualifying 125cc machine (Not sure that WK would be) gets you FULL A-Group licence with 2 year 33bhp power restriction.
Come January next year, only test you'll be able to do at 17 is for the A1 125 only licence group that will let you ride a Learner-Legal just without L-Plates, and you'll have to hold THAT for two years before you might test again on a bigger A2 qualifying biuke for higher licence catagory.... hold THAT another two years to test YET again on an even bigger-bigger qualifying bike to get the A group you could have simply doing tests now & waiting two years.
Sod style, sod performance; Yamaha YBR125 is best VFM machine out there at the moment, & £1500 ought to get you a 'good' one around three years old, first MOT fresh any problems sorted for that first MOT, that should prove VERY useful and ecconomical.
Use 'change' to get some lessons, to correct any riding habbits you have, and some tips on tests; use rest to pay for tests, get FULL licence.
THAT done you have choice; ride out the year on your YBR without L's until your insurance expires & hopefully you have a years NCB to carry over, or flog the YBR as soon as. If you sell within the year, may get back almost all you paid for it.
That gives you over a grand to go looking for a 33bhp complient bike, with stuff like Kawasaki GPz500Z or bargain of the moment, ER5 high on the list along with Suzuki GS500 or SV650, or Honda CB500. All good newbie freindly bikes that are easily restricted to 33bhp, and cheap for 17 year old to insure, and possibly as cheap to run as a 125, with a damn site more 'oomph', all inside budget of a second hand YBR.
Thats my reccomend, anyway. Forget the bike, get a LICENCE, and just get whatever bike helps you get that cheapest & easiest... which time & time over proves to be a YBR. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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BusySam wrote: | Mk1GSF wrote: | There's no way I'd pay £2k for a Chinese bike, whether new or not. Don't get me wrong, I've had two of them (Chinese, not the ones you mention), and both were sound, but I paid less than £500 for them. |
Ahh right fair enough! As I said I'm not to knowledgeable about bikes but from the what i've read the chinese ones are gonna fall apart on me? |
I can't say that, as I owned a '97 plate whose only non-routine repairs was a flasher relay. I admit, the finish wasn't the best, and once a month I smelled like a chip fat fryer because I had to paint the exhaust pipe with Hammerite BBQ paint, but it was a good bike, and wish I still had it TBH.
The '55 plate I didn't have long enough to experience any faults. |
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Okay. Thanks .
I'm not to fussed about it looking that stylish right now. From what Mike said earlier I just need to get tests done before Jan. So I'll be more than happy with any style at the moment. |
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Haha. Well I'm definitely gonna look into the YBR  |
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You won't look back, it took the announcement of the change in tests (from the 1 test to a mod 1/mod 2 scenario) to get me to do my test, did it the week before my local test centre closed, waited 3 months, bought a Bandit as a birthday present to myself, never looked back.  |
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BusySam wrote: | Ahh right! Seems a bit strange all these news laws coming in.. What's it all about any idea? |
Motorbikes represent less than 1% of motorised road users, but appear in something like 20% of 'collissions', and account for around half or 'driver' fetalities.
Biggest contriobutor to this is one-week-wunders, doing an intensive DAS course that gets them a licence after barely 20hours in teh saddle and maybe 500 miles experience, and thus qualified thinking THAT means they know it all and going and buying 600 or litre loonie bikes and understanding ONLY that they do 'fast' and when they get bored of fast. getting something faster... until they DIE
And Unsupervised L-Platers, who allowed on the roads with bog all qualification hurt themselves... though usually ONLY themselves and generally not THAT badly...
The 'Idea', is a tiered learning system, where you start out on something small, lightweight and low powered and learn your 'craft', where the bike wont do much for you and you have to work hard to make it move and move the way you want.
Then progress to something thats a bit more capable, but newbie freindly that will let you get used to extra weight and power, but still give you something to work for....
Then onto something thats more inspiring, when if you do anything daft, well, you ought to have known better, really!
SO, they introduce a new three stage licence system with tests at each stage to check your development....
Great idea...
ONLY in the normal nonsense of beurocratic idiocy, they impose rediculouse 2 year waiting periods between stages.... JUST to slow people up, even if they are faster learners....
THEN decide in thier infinite wisdom that they WONT get rid of DAS rules.... so the loonie fringe that cause most DEATHS can still go kill'emselves.
AND to keep Unsupervised L-Plating..... becouse too many people perpetually L-Plate and repeat CBT's are a good earner for the DSA..... so they can still carry on going out and hurting themselves TOO...
So ONLY people effected by the new system are the ones that WOULD in all probability have followed a 'staged' learning curve, getting a licence and working thier way up to biger bikes ANYWAY.... unencumbered by rediculouse beurocracy....
This, my young freind, is something I would wish you to be mindful of next year when you are old enough to vote.....
Governments, are a great idea, 'in principle' fucked up by politicians, who proffessionally, take good ideas.... and FUCK THEM UP! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Ah I see. Cheers.  |
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.2k id buy a honda varadero  |
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