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| Rogerborg |
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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 Posted: 21:25 - 08 May 2012 Post subject: April 2012 new registration figures - oh dear, Suzuki. |
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Here.
Overall, the same picture. Adventure Sports way up, scooters up, 125s up, litre+ bikes holding up, everything in the middle still tanking big style.
The Triumph Tiger Explorer 1215 is selling in spades, Triumph are the #3 by registration, and those are all big bikes with big margins. BMW have slumped to #7. Rule Britannia, and take that Jerry Fritz Hun.
Suzuki languish at #5, bottom of the Japanese marques, and that was while running their really rather good £600 to £1000 cashback offer. Now they've extended - perhaps had to extend - a slightly watered down version of it.
I know someone has to be bottom of the class, but I really do think that by running that offer for so long that they may have essentially devalued their brand. If they couldn't shift their stock at fire sale prices - SV650s at £4450! - what chance do they have if they try to creep their prices back up again? The bikes haven't got any newer or more attractive, they can barely give them away... where to now?  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| Kris |
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 Posted: 09:24 - 09 May 2012 Post subject: |
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April was very wet too. Any potential new sportsbike buyers may be waiting for the sun... ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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| JoeDougieDoug... |
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 Posted: 10:29 - 09 May 2012 Post subject: |
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I went into a Suzuki dealer a few weeks ago on one of my occasional searches for a big bike for when I pass - The salesman was practically begging me to take it! I was looking at the V-Strom 650cc, and he said if I buy the bike, he will throw in:
- The bike (obviously)
- The FULL touring kit (Top box, panniers, touring screen etc)
- Almax chain
- 1 years free insurance.
Needless to say, I was nearly walking a V-Strom 650 home (I'm too much of a pussy to ride it without a license, might get caught!)  ____________________ CBT Passed - 22 / 10 / 11 >> Theory Passed - 16 / 02 / 2012 >> Mod 1 Passed - 07 / 03 / 2012 >> Mod 2 Passed - 18 / 05 / 2012. |
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| Rogerborg |
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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 Posted: 11:22 - 09 May 2012 Post subject: |
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Another "nearly" purchase, they'll be delighted.
Cheap git though I am, even I was "nearly" tempted by some of their deals. Then I came to my senses and got a 10 year old bike that does 95% of what I'll need 95% of the time.
I'd hate to be a bike salesman right now, they must hear that a lot. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| chris-red |
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 chris-red Have you considered a TDM?

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 Posted: 12:08 - 09 May 2012 Post subject: |
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The SV is what? 13? years since they changed anything. The bandit's have been what 6-7 years without a change? It's old hat now. PS, the TDM dumps all over the V Strom.  ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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| Rogerborg |
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| chris-red wrote: | The SV is what? 13? years since they changed anything. The bandit's have been what 6-7 years without a change? It's old hat now. PS, the TDM dumps all over the V Strom.  |
Yup, and their range is a bit of mess. They've got variants on variants - four versions of the V-Strom - plus the Gladius, SV650, naked and half faired Bandits and the GSX650F kicking around at the bottom of the range confusing potential purchasers - they don't seem able to just kill off a few models and concentrate on marketing (or God willing, improving) the remainder.
Oh, they do have one new model announced though: the Inzauma 250, a bike in the lest popular capacity, that's going to just up sticks and die next year.
It just feels like they haven't got a clue what to do, other than to cross their fingers, keep discounting, and hope for a financial recovery. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| Derivative |
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500 bikes per month just seems unviable to me, wow.
https://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/dealers/
I spot about 50 dealers on there, that's about 10 bikes per dealer per month. |
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| Rogerborg |
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 Posted: 18:22 - 09 May 2012 Post subject: |
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It gets better. By heavily discounting the new bikes, they've shagged both their own dealers and customers up the bottom line on the value of their pre-owned bikes as well. Whenever someone tries to trade in a newish Suzuki (anywhere) they're going to be hearing (truthfully for once) "It's just not worth very much".
Say that enough, and Suzuki's customers might start to believe it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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YZF-R125 is a "Supersport" according to that That must make an R6 a Hypersport and god knows what you could call an R1 now... ____________________ ZX6R + CBR600RR |
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I see they're doing some sort of "roadshow" thing of their (nobody laugh) "2012 models" with even more "special offers". Assuming that it's not just a way to free up some space at the docks, I assume that the marketing slogan will be:
"Can't afford a modern bike? A Suzuki is good enough for the likes of you!" ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Suzuki's sales have tanked more than Kawasaki's since 2008, their dealers are still trying to shift heavily discounted 2011 and even 2010 bikes as 'new' stock, their models are older, and they don't seem to have anything new on the horizon except a 250 commuter. I expect they'll shave 10 grams off of next year's Gixxers though.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 chris-red Have you considered a TDM?

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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 271 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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