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WannaBeDude
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 28 May 2012    Post subject: Re: dvla why Reply with quote

WULFSTAN THE 2nd wrote:
so i sold my cb 500 in feb no problems at all send all the paperwork off and everything is fine.get home from work today to find a letter of them saying i failed to tell them i had sold the bike and they want £50 off me WTF Confused


You not kept your recorded receipt ? Smile
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 28 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll take you to court, read up interpretations act 1978 and win.

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PostPosted: 21:13 - 28 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

you just say you done your part of the bargain ie the interpretions act as Paddy states, sent off and that is far as its goes. You are not required to chase up a missing piece of fuc**** confirmation. Bastards, they tried this on me when I bought my mate's bike. Acted on behalf of my mate using his name and said it got lost in the post and heard nothing more from them.

F*** em!
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 28 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read Sickpup's tome on the subject. It's a marathon read but I promise you that it'll be worth your while.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 28 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
Do people really need spoon feeding these days?


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PostPosted: 21:38 - 28 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
Do people really need spoon feeding these days?


Well if you're offering... Wink
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

WULFSTAN THE 2nd wrote:
Raffles wrote:
Read Sickpup's tome on the subject. It's a marathon read but I promise you that it'll be worth your while.

got a link?

There you go.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jersum wrote:
Mk1GSF wrote:
Do people really need spoon feeding these days?
Well if you're offering... Wink

I blame the education system. There is a difference between spoon feeding and spooning Wink
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a letter that is 100% guaranteed to get them to drop it. Have used it 4 times now Smile Just amend to suit your details. Your welcome!

Dear Sir/Madam,

I received your letter dated ?????? regarding the non notification of change of ownership for vehicle: 12345


I sold this car in ???????, and mailed the V5 document via 1st class post (as I have always done when selling a car – with no problems!). It wasn’t until I received a letter saying that somebody was applying to be the registered keeper of this vehicle and to ignore the letter if this was OK, so I ignored the letter. A month later I received another letter stating that I was being fined for failure to notify a change of registered keeper.

Below are some legal points of which I have followed.

The Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002

“Change of keeper: registration document issued in Great Britain on or after 24th March 1997 and the new keeper not a vehicle trader
22. (2) The registered keeper of the vehicle -
(a) if the registration document issued in respect of the vehicle is in his possession, shall deliver to the new keeper that part of the document marked as the part which is to be given to the new keeper; and

(b) shall forthwith deliver the remainder of the registration document to the Secretary of State, duly completed to include the following -
(i) the name and address of the new keeper;

(ii) the date on which the vehicle was sold or transferred to the new keeper;

(iii) a declaration signed by the registered keeper that the details given in accordance with paragraph (i) are correct to the best of his knowledge and that the details given in accordance with paragraph (ii) are correct; and

(iv) a declaration signed by the new keeper that the details given in accordance with paragraphs (i) and (ii) are correct.”
Interpretation Act 1978

7 References to service by post

“Where an Act authorises or requires any document to be served by post (whether the expression “serve” or the expression “give” or “send” or any other expression is used) then, unless the contrary intention appears, the service is deemed to be effected by properly addressing, pre-paying and posting a letter containing the document and, unless the contrary is proved, to have been effected at the time at which the letter would be delivered in the ordinary course of post.”


As I previously stated I used 1st class post to “deliver” the V5 document which complies with both regulations above.


The DVLA states that I have no defence because I did not receive confirmation from them. This confirmation letter from the DVLA is not a legal requirement!


As stated in Human Rights Act 1998, Schedule 1, Article 6, section 2

“Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law. "



I have no proof of posting the V5 document because I have never done so before. I also believe that I should not have to prove that I posted the V5 document and if this matter does indeed go to court it should be down to the DVLA to prove that I did not.


I look forward to receiving your comments on this matter
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sort of similar question, my last bike was written off on the 5th of march, I sent off the log book to the scrap company but haven't received a confirmation letter, the tax runs out on the bike in 2 days (got the reminder 2 weeks ago)
I tried calling the DVLA to make sure but apparently they have no manned phone lines and you have to do EVERYTHING in writing Rolling Eyes

Should I be worried about the tax expiring?
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

scream aim fire wrote:
I sent off the log book to the scrap company

You'd best change your recollection, soldier. It's your responsibility to inform the DVLA that the vehicle has been scrapped, not the scrappy's.

I think what you meant to say was that you posted the notification of scrapping to the DVLA, right?
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

meh, dvla is all slack jock straps dripping with summer sweat.

i called them, spoke to someone to chase up the new keeper registration and they said "nothing has changed yet, its not in your name but will be soon" the next day i received the V5 in my name all correct and present.

go figure. the entire DVLA system is retarded.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

You'd best change your recollection, soldier. It's your responsibility to inform the DVLA that the vehicle has been scrapped, not the scrappy's.

I think what you meant to say was that you posted the notification of scrapping to the DVLA, right?


Except a new log book doesn't even give you the option to declare a vehicle scrapped.

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PostPosted: 20:49 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
scream aim fire wrote:
I sent off the log book to the scrap company

You'd best change your recollection, soldier. It's your responsibility to inform the DVLA that the vehicle has been scrapped, not the scrappy's.

I think what you meant to say was that you posted the notification of scrapping to the DVLA, right?


Nah BLD told me I had to send the log book to them and they would pass it on.

Confused
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

You'd best change your recollection, soldier. It's your responsibility to inform the DVLA that the vehicle has been scrapped, not the scrappy's.

I think what you meant to say was that you posted the notification of scrapping to the DVLA, right?


Except a new log book doesn't even give you the option to declare a vehicle scrapped.


A friend died and I offered to scrap what was left of his CBR1000FH.As far as the old blue log sheet was concerned,I suggested to his family to write to the DVLA with the log sheet and a covering letter to say that the bike had been scrapped and that was the last that has been heard.
But it does seem a bit strange that previous styles of log sheet had a section to notify of scrappage,but not the latest.Maybe a breakers yard operator has a differant channel to the DVLA.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Cars must go via an authorised recycling centre. Not sure this applies to bikes, but they have got caught up with the changes to the log books to stitch up car owners.

All the best

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