Dirty Bandit Turbo. Added sound file...

krarkol · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Oct 2012 Karma :

160mph would do me fine...I WANT DEM TORQUES THO!

I'd imagine the gears would just feel too short though Laughing

Never ridden a B12 but I'd imagine it would feel like 1st gear on the 600. Set off and be redlining and needing to shift up way to soon!
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Take 1st gear on the 600 and multiply it by three, then you're getting somewhere.
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_Iain_ · Banned Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Karma :

Standard Bandit 12's are an odd one compared to the 6's - felt I needed to scream the engine right up to get anything out of it on the 6 & always keep it above 5k otherwise it'd struggle. On the 12 you diddn't really need to go anywhere near the redline and the motor was happy enough chugging about with 3k upshifts.

Totally different bike. Cant imagine what one of those with boost would be like Shocked

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krarkol · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Oct 2012 Karma :

Don't think I'd be able to react quick enough to change gear Laughing

You lot should be B12 salesmen though, sound like a lot of bike for the budget really. Even without a turbo!
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_Iain_ · Banned Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Karma :

It's a lot of bike for the money, but I wouldn't buy one unless a turbo kit popped up cheap.

Exceptionally heavy & lazy handling. Weigh about as much as a bus. Frames rot. Every single one has been used as a chav's wheelie machine at some point so suspensions bound to be fucked. Fuel consumption is terrible.

I could probbably go on. Laughing

If you've had a 600 for a while and you like it then you'll love a 1200. If you've had a bad experience with a 600 then you'll soon realise that the awesome engine doesn't make up for the rest of the bike.
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krarkol · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Oct 2012 Karma :

If I'm honest I enjoyed the 600. Besides me blowing the fork seals every few month due to me enjoying the front being in the air too much. Laughing

Yes it was bland and I realised it's limitations pretty quickly, it's never had any problems besides me wanting more power and better handling. Even though I could keep up with the faster lads during welsh runs, they made it seem a ton easier as I was wallowing around bends

Was in the market for another bike a few week ago and some generous blind cunt was considerate enough to pull out on me and allow me to superman over his car, so I'm now looking for a potential new toy. It's either a daytona 675 or I go the slightly cheaper route and get a bandit 12, £2000 turbo ride in ride out in Liverpool and maybe either getting progressive springs in the front and heavier fork oil or just getting USD's fitted.

Sheer speed and precision handling vs a muscular bike that needs wrestling around the corners. Both appeal to me massively Laughing

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Bandit 1200 is a good do everything bike, a jack of all and master of none. Oddly enough a lot of people who I know have XJR 1300s which are quite similar bikes in concept but they have tried/had Bandits and found them too sport focused in terms of ergonomics and character for what they want.

A lot of it is the Bandit being pretty much a budget bike, it's a motor with a lot of potential bound in a steel frame with budget cycle parts.

Whilst mine still has the frame, it wears a wp adjustable rear shock, k6 GSXR front end with the radial 4 pots that supplies, and has a 60" wheelbase (56.5" standard, though the USD front end removes 1.5" due to shorter forks) running through an O-ringless drag bike chain . It also has flat bars which pull you forward and down over the front of the bike, even so opening the bike up in a low gear when you aren't really ready for it I.e sat back over the rear, will flip the bike very easily.

The concept of a totally standard Bandit 12 with 200+hp from a turbo is a scary, not to mention dangerous concept. Before I extended the swing arm it would wheely when it came on the boost in 5th, no matter what you did. I wouldn't ride a standard Bandit with a beefy turbo setup in the manner I ride mine unless it at least had some sort of extension at the back end.

Turbo setup 3kish, bits/work required to make it rideable a further 2k. There is such thing as a cheap turbo bike, not really such a thing as a useable, cheap turbo bike. It chews fuel, destroys consumables with alarming regularity and maintenance is regular to say the least. I fuckin love it though.
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virus · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Karma :

I really want to turbo my bandit 12 engined gsx600f, Ive already put
USDs with 4 pot nissins and a gsxr rear shock in and she handles pretty damn well for an old rat but to be honest the logical thing to do for more power would be a dot head.

but a dot head wont go BRAAAAAAP PSHHHH Laughing

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

ERMAH GERD TURBOT.

Recently performed a full service on this. It was going on display at my mates fundraiser (do a bit of BSB spannering for him on the side, superstock last year Triple Challenge this year) so tarted around and spent a couple of weeks with it off the road. I have a nasty habit of riding it during winter but it always shines back up.

Anyway headlines are carbs balanced, Comp checked 150 psi across all barrels, 2 exhaust valves 1 thou out rest spot on, cams look pristine, new hotter plugs in as colder ones where fouling too often for my liking, 4.3 ( Shocked

) litres of Silkolene race 10-40 and filter, and found it had a dead coil. Coffee on plugs 2 & 3 and black on 1 & 4. Explains recent misfire I've been having. Also replaced front pads and rebled. I've been a bit hard on it recently and had to chisel the pad material that had baked itself in the holes in the front disc out. First time I've ever had to do that lol!

Whilst there lobbed a new set of Easton Pro Taper bars on to it, giving me an extra inch in width to mahandle the fucker into corners and fitted the dual outlet Pingle tap and y piece. It took forever to remount the comprehensive clock package this bike has... I also painstakingly hand inlayed the Suzuki logo on the motor back in black and took just about everything off to clean it.

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I have sourced a set of Dyna 3 ohm coils to replace the stockers, should solve the problem I've been having and really kick the motor up the arse.
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krarkol · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Oct 2012 Karma :

Mmmm machine porn!

I imagine with that sort of set up for the zorst, it's pretty loud?

I had a delkevic stubby on mine and it just sounded as loud as it did with only downpipes on Laughing

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

It's not overly loud. Having the pipe underneath the bike keeps it from being too offensive and the turbo acts as a silencer. It's loud, and it pops and crackles on the overrun and chatters from the wastegate but it's pretty much a cacophany of quieter sounds.

Firing it up indoors where the sound can bounce around is almost ear bleeding though.

It was actually louder when it wasn't turboed and had a set of free flowing headers and an sp engineering stubby on it.
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krarkol · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Oct 2012 Karma :

I guess that is better then, although the louder the better for me Laughing

Mine was just the right height for backfiring next to people with open car windows...
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

I really like that.

My only issue is the headlights, I'd have gone for something more arrogant, like a KTM Duke 2 headlight or something, similar to that.

Still, what a machine Thumbs Up

lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Aye pads, I can see at night though, so it's alright lol.

I performed a little experiment tonight on the bandit, took my phone out in my pocket with the voice recorder on to see what it would pick up on a private road. Was quite surprised...

Breakdown:

First 25 seconds me fiddling around with phone, then lecky fuel pump noise then rumbly noise, you can hear it struggle on the bad coil.

Ride down to a straight section of my private road Smile

the popping and banging you hear isn't phone microphone interference, it's spitting blue flame with excess fuel on the overrun, something I need to get footage of.

First light pull at 1:14 through to third shortshifting 1st & 2nd, it squirms and spins in third at roughly 95 mph (5 speed box) about 4 seconds after the initial launch from 10 ish mph. You can hear the boost building and the frenzied delivery, but it's not at full boost as I haven't taken it all the way back to the stop.

Second heavier pull 1:37, short shift first and give it the beans in second, breaks loose and pins the limiter for a second or so, shift into third and have to back off as am out of road.

There's a couple more quick flex of the wrist pulls but not really much worth mentioning. Rest is me cruising back to home. 2:20 is me extending the bandit heavily to overtake a car Wink

Listening back now, that coil is really bad lol. It's interesting how understressed and low revving the motor sounds, in real life it has a real nasty edge to the exhaust note that the phone mike can't pick up in my pocket. The other thing is how short the gears seem... It's a 5 speed box geared for 160 mph. Haha. Having time to match with the sound is eye opening.

Anyway, hope it staves off the hunger for a riding vid for a bit. I'm going out with my mate on sunday to try and get some footage of this in flight, flybys and the like.
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krarkol · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Oct 2012 Karma :

Sounds like it's trying to kill you, which sounds fun to me! Laughing

Amazing how quick it got up to 95mph though Shocked

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Little bit of a clean up, parts added and some redone. Getting ready for the bulldog bash and a run in with the drag strip.

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Also, flyby.
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chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

Please paint the Rear Wheel, it's annoying me Laughing

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Bike is going satin black for the bulldog, will most likely plastidip the wheels to match.
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Bunny Lingus · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 Apr 2014 Karma :

The sound when yous giving it berries reminds me of two things: Last Farnborough air show when the Avro Vulcan took off & the blast wave from a not-so-distant thermonuclear explosion... 'An enormous door slamming in the depths of hell.'

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Tis quite a nice level of noise, the road surface is quite choppy there so it was squirreling around a lot and trying to lift so not quite flat chat and short shifting. I love the vulcan, so much ridiculous power...
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CHR15 · Turbo nutter bastard Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Karma :

you know you want to.

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

As much as I like a good shindig I'm not in favour of having all the pistons meet in the middle and having a party. Set up with some sort of rpm controlled switch that nosed the bottom end up till about 5k then cut it as the turbo came in would be quite nice. Certainly would compensate for the spool time on the turbo.
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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :