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Tyson10
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Hi from another noob Reply with quote

Hi everyone, just thought i'd put my first post in here.

Been looking around the forum for a few weeks reading different info, been bebating doing my cbt/test this year.

Im 28 but have no bike experience really so im a complete noob. Its something ive always wanted to get into but never got round to it! The misses is telling me in having a midlife crises at 28! lol

Ive got a full driving licence, passed it in 2002 & got 6 years no claims so hopefully that'll make things abit easier. So my main question to you guys is shall i just go for it? As im a total noob should i get some lessons first or book a cbt and take it from there?

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice Wink
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

go for the cbt now and get a geared 125 and try and pass your test before 2013 asap!!

The rules after that means you will have to take lots of tests!

Go for it! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb1rocket wrote:
go for the cbt now and get a geared 125 and try and pass your test before 2013 asap!!

The rules after that means you will have to take lots of tests!

Go for it! Thumbs Up


Not quite, he's 28 - he can go straight to DAS.

EDIT : Some advice. Okay.

If you've no objection to riding a 125, or not in a hurry to pass your test, get a reliable Japanese 4stroke. Get your experience up, and then do your tests on it, if you feel like it. Do this before January 2013 and you will be a on a restricted license of 33bhp for two years.

Alternatively because you're over the age of 21 (24 in January) you can do Direct Access. Basically train with a school over a period of time, or in bulk (Seems to be the most common) and you can do your test on a bigger bike, which will give you a full, unrestricted license, should you pass. Then you can ride anything.
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Hi from another noob Reply with quote

Tyson10 wrote:
Hi everyone, just thought i'd put my first post in here.

Been looking around the forum for a few weeks reading different info, been bebating doing my cbt/test this year.

Im 28 but have no bike experience really so im a complete noob. Its something ive always wanted to get into but never got round to it! The misses is telling me in having a midlife crises at 28! lol

Ive got a full driving licence, passed it in 2002 & got 6 years no claims so hopefully that'll make things abit easier. So my main question to you guys is shall i just go for it? As im a total noob should i get some lessons first or book a cbt and take it from there?

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice Wink


Do it. I was driving a car for 4 years before the bike bug bit. I hadn't been on a bike other than as a pillion passenger so it was all new.

I'm with everyone else though. If you can afford it do your Direct Access - its so worth it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi & welcome to the forum Mr. Green ....good luck with the biking Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell your misses that 28 is nowhere near being old enough for a midlife crisis!

I did my tests at 27 after having driven a car for years. I did a year on a 125 then did DAS after that. Some people may tell you that DAS is evil and leaves you unprepared for riding a large bike in the big wide world, others will tell you that it's a great way to get the bike you want without waiting for restrictions to pass. Personally I didn't see the point of getting my licence and having to restrict a bike when I could forgo that completely.

You need to do some research here yourself. What do you want? Road experience on smaller bikes will boost confidence, however the new licence directives may hamper you further if you don't pass before Jaunary. Best advice would be to get your CBT under your belt first then decide after that. Or if you just want to see if biking is for you book a GetOn session with your local bike school. It's free and if the school is any good they should be able to advise you of how long/how many lessons you would need to get your tests done.

Whatever you choose - best of luck!
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Tyson10
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replys! I think what i might do is do the cbt and see how i get on with riding a bike.

To be honest i'd be happy with a 125 to start off with as im not in a rush to jump on a big powerful bike as i obviously have no experience & i dont want to end up killing myself or someone else for that matter lol

At some point i think i'd like to do some off road aswell but as i said im a complete noob and i think doing some lessons/cbt would be a good starting point.....would you guys agree with that?
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyson10 wrote:


To be honest i'd be happy with a 125 to start off with


Everyone always says this... Give it 2 months... Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your CBT first. You have to do that before you can take lessons because you need the CBT to validate your provisional licence to allow you to ride a bike on the road.

Having a car licence does not exempt you from this.

The CBT will also teach you the basics, let you get to know whether you enjoy biking and more.

Then after that you can decide:
- Do I only want to ride a 125 for ages
- Do I want something bigger

For the first option, just go around on L-plates yourself for a while. Get used to biking and get a few months experience underneath your belt.

Then you get two subsidiary options from that choice:
- You don't see the need for a rocket ship yet and you don't mind being restricted (33bhp) against what bikes you can ride. You sit the standard bike tests (commonly called A2) on your own bike, often with no lessons due to experience. Pass them. Sell your bike for pretty much what you paid for it and then purchase a larger bike. This is often the cheapest option, but ideally this needs to be done before January 2013 to simplify things for you.

The second subsidiary option, and the second option, are the same:
- You decide that you want a bigger bike without the restriction. You do DAS.

Now DAS falls under, yet again, another two categories:
- You self teach yourself on your own 125. Take a 125cc to 500cc conversion lesson and then hire a bike to sit the DAS tests on. (Cheaper).
- You enrol on a DAS course which includes lessons, bike hire and and conversion lessons and then use their bikes for the tests. (More expensive, but more comprehensive and common).

Of course, you could enrol on the DAS course straight away after doing your CBT and not ever need to buy a 125.

If I was in your shoes however, with a sensible head, this would be my choice:
- CBT
- Buy and ride a 125 for a few months
- Take conversion lessons
- Do DAS tests on hire bike
- Sell 125 and buy big bike

However, if I was being brutally honest with myself, I'd probably do this:
- CBT
- DAS course
- Buy rocket ship
- Require new underwear from "over-excitement" whilst riding

Kingstondavo wrote:
Everyone always says this... Give it 2 months... Laughing


I was happy with mine. Rode it for 6 months, passed my test and then rode it for another 6 months waiting for my insurance to run out.

Was a little sad to see that bike go. I loved it. My commute includes the motorway next year though so it just wasn't up for the job.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi and welcome to the Forum! 28 years old for a MLC? I don't think so. Besides, ask your wife if she would rather you rode a motorbike or another woman? That should pave the way right there.
I'd recommend you get your CBT as soon as poss, just to see whether you like riding. If you do (and you will), have some lessons on a 125 and see if you like that, or want to go Direct Access and ride a bigger, better bike (and you will). It's all money dependant really - got enough to splash and you want a bigger bike, go DAS. Want to take it slower and pootle about for more experience, get a 125 for a few months and sell it for what you paid for it.
Do your CBT this month, and welcome to a new world!
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some great replys - thanks everyone.

I think the main obstacle will be the misses lol She really fears bikes altogether after reading about deaths from crashes and watching too much day time rescue shows ect

But like i say its something that ive always wanted to do so i think i'll get the cbt done & see if its my thing....im pretty sure it will be so looks like i'll have to be dangling some new shoes in her direction to get her off my case Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell the missus to stop trying to control your life. Everyone has a negative outlook on how dangerous bikes are.

It's like racism for bikes... bikism?!

The simply answer to the missus is that if you enjoy biking then do it. Do you really want to be with someone that tries to control what you do to the extent that you can't do something that you enjoy? Show her who's boss and take her up the gary. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
Tell the missus to stop trying to control your life. Everyone has a negative outlook on how dangerous bikes are.

It's like racism for bikes... bikism?!

The simply answer to the missus is that if you enjoy biking then do it. Do you really want to be with someone that tries to control what you do to the extent that you can't do something that you enjoy? Show her who's boss and take her up the gary. Thumbs Up


Hahahahaha best comment so far Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remind the missus that she thought it was a mid life crisis after she has been on the back for the first time if you do your full test!
If 27 is considered mid life then I've only got 4 more years of being young Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingstondavo wrote:
Tyson10 wrote:


To be honest i'd be happy with a 125 to start off with


Everyone always says this... Give it 2 months... Laughing


so so true!
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read people get bored of their 125's pretty quick! The bikes I've been looking at are DT125, XR125 ect I could go the direct access route & get something bigger like a DRZ400 but I don't want to try & run before I can crawl lol
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyson10 wrote:
I think the main obstacle will be the misses lol She really fears bikes altogether after reading about deaths from crashes and watching too much day time rescue shows ect


Blow her mind with facts! Or make her scared of something else....

My favourites:

5 people a year on average are killed by lightning in the UK, with men getting hit more often than women.

2500 lefties die each year through using tools meant for righties (this seems too far fetched), tell her that you have developed a taste for standing next to lefties cutting thing with circular saws.

15 people die each year by falling off of ladders in the UK

20 people each year in the UK die by falling out of bed

1500 people in the UK die in car crashes each year

So she should be afraid of thunderstorms, lefties, ladders, beds and cars. PROBLEMO SOLVED Thumbs Up

In all seriousness if that is going to be an issue then involve her in the bike process. Especially the researching/buying lids and other protective gear.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyson10 wrote:
I've read people get bored of their 125's pretty quick! The bikes I've been looking at are DT125, XR125 ect I could go the direct access route & get something bigger like a DRZ400 but I don't want to try & run before I can crawl lol


You will be far from the first person to go DAS and jump straight onto a 400/600... Doing DAS and jumping on a super sports bike is stupid, but most commuter big bikes are very forgiving for the newbie
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does she like horses? I'm sure Roger will be along shortly to give the stats, but IIRC you're 20 times more likely to have an accident on a horse than a bike.

I'm in my late 40s, and according to my wife, getting a bike was my 3rd mid-life crisis. Mind you, as she was my 1st crisis, she doesn't complain Laughing She was a bit apprehensive, but now any excuse and she's jumping on the back for a ride out.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingstondavo wrote:
Tyson10 wrote:
I've read people get bored of their 125's pretty quick! The bikes I've been looking at are DT125, XR125 ect I could go the direct access route & get something bigger like a DRZ400 but I don't want to try & run before I can crawl lol


You will be far from the first person to go DAS and jump straight onto a 400/600... Doing DAS and jumping on a super sports bike is stupid, but most commuter big bikes are very forgiving for the newbie


+1. It took me two years to grow out of my Hornet.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for it. It doesn't matter how you get there, just do it. I postponed for 20 years and yes I do regret wasting all that time before getting the licence. You will get bored of the 125 quite quickly, so aim for something with more guts but not too gutsy that you cannot handle it. A few years experience and some good basic training will set you on your motorcycling path. As for the other half, show her you are a safe rider and take her to a few motorcycling events to demostrate your interest in it. She'll soon lose that attitude when she realises that motorcycling is not as dangerous as the reputation makes out to be Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 20 yr break and I do regret it. Since passing my test in April I have really enjoyed being out and about on a bigger bike. 125cc get a commuter chug and do the tests on it, or as others have said do das. i bought the 125 and did the tests myself as the 125cc was a test bed to get back to being used to 2 wheels and building up the gear and experience before chucking myself into the tests.
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