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| BusySam |
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 BusySam Renault 5 Driver

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 Posted: 18:53 - 25 May 2012 Post subject: CBR vs NSR. |
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Hello,
Done my research but nothing like some lovely BCF advise, I'm buying a 125 and have narrowed it down to either a CBR 125 or a NSR 125. Could anyone tell me any pros/cons of either. I know the NSR is a 2 stroke so it won't be AS reliable (I'm guessing). On looks side I love the NSR it's lovely, I prefer the more 'square look' if that makes any sense? However I know the earlier CBRs are also kind of this shape compared to the 2011/2012 CBRs which are more 'pointy shaped'.
I can't really gather to much information on the two when it comes to major major difference, but hopefully you guys can give me some friendly and I dare say harsh advice!  |
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| bikertomm |
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Standard response: Get the cbr as it's 4 stroke, will have smoother power delivery, cheap as chips on petrol and should be fairly reliable.
Teenage advice: Get the 2 stroke, faster, less reliable overall, (But a well looked after one and you could be just fine) Factor in less MPG than a 4 stroke and you have to buy oil, depends how often you use it
Get the CBR, do your test, sell the CBR, get a 600 = Profit.  ____________________ 07' Honda Hornet now full powaah! My guide on performing an oil change! |
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Hi
Equal age and condition wise if anything I would expect the NSR to be better reliability wise. But the newest NSR will be about the same age as the older CBR. NSR is built to a rather higher standard, while the CBR is built more down to a budget.
Believe the weak point of the CBR is the gearbox, while with the NSR it seems to be the stator. Although probably both are more likely to be destroyed by learners throwing them are the scenery.
All the best
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| BusySam wrote: | I'm only 17, but I'm not one of those idiot learners who rag the shit out of bikes believe it or not, so I'll take the standard advise |
"Standard advice" is YBR/CG/CBF/EN 125, pass your tests ASAP, get on the bike that you really want. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Got a CBR myself and I can't really fault it. But if you can find CG/YBR or CBF cheaper you might as well have those. I only got my CBR because I had my heart set on it and I'm stubborn. ____________________ Current Bike: 2002 Honda CBR F Sport / Previous Bike: 2005 Honda CBR 125 (R.I.P)
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Many years ago this forum evolved from and NSR specific forum.. In those halcyon days no one would recommend a 4t commuter bike over a sexy little 2t junior racer.
There was no talk of 'doing your licence' or '125s being a stepping stone', we understood that 17 year olds wanted to rag the shit out of a learner bike and all was well....
Get an NSR, it's fun.
Derestrict it, it's even more fun..
Don't get CBR, if you want that sort of bike get a CG.. It's essentially the same, but you don't have the expensive fairings..
Honestly, I do sometimes feel there is a wee bit too much sensibleness around nowadays. ____________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S Thompson
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| BusySam wrote: | Are the NSRs really that nice? They certainly look it! I think the reliability thing come from the bike I had before. I had an RS50 and the thing fell to pieces, and I didn't treat it shit or anything.. I really do like the NSR, it's lovely. |
I loved mine mate, it was derestricted (as was deriguer at the time) and was a great deal of fun.
I did a top end rebuild once which took me an afternoon and cost about 200 quid (might be more now), but other than that cost me bugger all.
Not as fast as my VFR obviously, but still put a smile on my face. ____________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S Thompson
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I've got an nsr and I LOVE it. I can't say enough about how much fun it is to ride, look at, work on, do anything with.
I've never rode a cbr so can't really compare, but an NSR feels fast. Acceleration, top speed, i've never felt slow, which i dont think you could say for any 4 stroke 125.
30bhp of an nsr to 13bhp of a cbr is a massive difference.
Build quality of NSRs is very good.
I understand all the good points about CBRs and all other 4 stroke 125s, but can't help thinking that they are the poofy second best choice. Go for power and fun  ____________________ NSR 125 |
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I wouldn't recommend getting either from a dealer.
Second hand 125 all the way  ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 255 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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