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Ariel Badger
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 06 Jun 2012    Post subject: The one type of biker who never posts here Reply with quote

Thieves, we all know you read this. Please tell us what you do, do you break them, sell overseas or just trash them and then torch?
This is your thread my skankey little brothers, do tell.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i usually break them down and sell them as parts, alot more money to be made that way and alot harder to trace the actual bike.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwakki Si wrote:
i usually break them down and sell them as parts, alot more money to be made that way and alot harder to trace the actual bike.


Seriously? You think it is something to kid about?
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I steal them bespoke and then drive them to my man in Poland over the weekend.

Well, not really, but a bloke at my office recently quit to work as his own 'delivery' company doing just this, I believe (read between the lines when he enthusiastically told me about his genius plan). Thought he was a bit of a cunt after hearing this to be honest.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zombeh wrote:

Well, not really, but a bloke at my office recently quit to work as his own 'delivery' company doing just this, I believe (read between the lines when he enthusiastically told me about his genius plan). Thought he was a bit of a cunt after hearing this to be honest.

Was it actually stolen or just general bikes - there's a lot of bikes still heading over that way that have been legitimately bought - often maybe ones on the HPI register etc at auctions and the like, which of course means nothing in their new home.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was also bike thieves on here that do post too.

Certainly people in the past that have been good friends with them admitting it and not having an issue Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i usually wait till i see i vulnerable bike not too far from me, i then have the bike brought to me or to a place out the way which i then pay not a lot of money for.

step 2 i get on ebay and such sites to find a frame with v5 to match said stolen bike.

step 3 i pay some scrote who is handy with a spanner to build the stolen bike onto the good frame and reap the reward so i can take a 200 pound stolen bike for example which legal is worth maybe 3k buy the frame for no more than a few hundred quid then pay the scrote to build bike. tx mot then i have a 3k bike for around 800 quid.

they dont go over seas thats just what you see in films, they may get driven rond for a few days but more thank likely they end up back on the road .

how many people on here know for certain that there second hand bike or even nearly new is built like this as i know of lots out there that are.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

just spotted a lovely cbr in red near me , oj G your safe.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

devojunior wrote:
i usually wait till i see i vulnerable bike not too far from me, i then have the bike brought to me or to a place out the way which i then pay not a lot of money for.

step 2 i get on ebay and such sites to find a frame with v5 to match said stolen bike.

step 3 i pay some scrote who is handy with a spanner to build the stolen bike onto the good frame and reap the reward so i can take a 200 pound stolen bike for example which legal is worth maybe 3k buy the frame for no more than a few hundred quid then pay the scrote to build bike. tx mot then i have a 3k bike for around 800 quid.

they dont go over seas thats just what you see in films, they may get driven rond for a few days but more thank likely they end up back on the road .

how many people on here know for certain that there second hand bike or even nearly new is built like this as i know of lots out there that are.



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PostPosted: 11:20 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah deadly seriouse bro dont even know what trolling is tbh .
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard taxi drivers get paid to 'spot' desired bikes, which is why a cover is often a first line of defense for stolen-to-order models.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tbourner wrote:
I've heard taxi drivers get paid to 'spot' desired bikes, which is why a cover is often a first line of defense for stolen-to-order models.

I've often wondered - not just taxi drivers, but postmen, binmen, leaflet droppers, door to door sales etc - all could easily have a "dodgy mate" that'll drop them £20 for a lead that gets them a bike.
And pretty much no way of proving anything.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

devojunior wrote:
i usually wait till i see i vulnerable bike not too far from me, i then have the bike brought to me or to a place out the way which i then pay not a lot of money for.

step 2 i get on ebay and such sites to find a frame with v5 to match said stolen bike.

step 3 i pay some scrote who is handy with a spanner to build the stolen bike onto the good frame and reap the reward so i can take a 200 pound stolen bike for example which legal is worth maybe 3k buy the frame for no more than a few hundred quid then pay the scrote to build bike. tx mot then i have a 3k bike for around 800 quid.

they dont go over seas thats just what you see in films, they may get driven rond for a few days but more thank likely they end up back on the road .

how many people on here know for certain that there second hand bike or even nearly new is built like this as i know of lots out there that are.


Putting aside the fact that you're probably not a very nice person I'm quite interested in the set up.
£200 doesn't seem like a lot of money to pay for a 3k bike even if they are stolen. A couple of non traceable parts could be ripped off it and sold on ebay for more then that! Do the thieves not realise this or are they proper crackheads that are just desperate for cash.

What exactly do you bring to the party? as you aren't doing the dirty work stealing the bike, you don't do the graft doing the frame swap and presumably you just sell the bikes on ebay/classified ads. It seems that you are doing nothing skillful or risky yet are taking all the profit, why don't the others just cut you out? or are you like some kind of local don that they wouldn't dare cross Smile

I'm also interested is it something that is constantly on your mind like when your out with mates on your bikes are you sort of keeping an eye out for other bikes to steal ect. Do you view the biking community as a bunch of mugs or do you feel part of it and that you are just making money from it?

Anyway you don't have to answer I was just interested and surprised that you choose to post about it on a bike forum that you've been on for a couple of years, and probably posted lots of personal information, it almost seems a little arrogant like you don't think anybody can touch you.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assumed he was joking but it's a convincing scenario.

Can you come and nick my ZX6R devo? I think I'd get a lot more from the insurance than I would from selling it Laughing

May as well take the CRM too...someone will shortly no doubt anyway.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably but he hasn't been back to bait us so I'll presume he's telling the truth.
He has posted his location in previous posts (its a shithole area so probably why he knows all about stealing bikes) and a photo of his garden, daughter ect so he doesn't sound like the mastermind in a bike ringing operation, but who knows.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally think these days that it's better to own a 125cc bike, or a trail bike, or a scooter instead of any mainstream bigger and popular models.

At least with a 125 or a Traile, all you need to worry about is keeping the local chavvy scumbags away, (easier said than done i know), but look at it this way, your never going to get the attentions of these organised professional expert theives that steal to order or for breaking and export. There isn't going to be enough money in these sorts of bikes to make a pro bother going for.

I agree, that the local trades persons mentioned, or delivery men/cold caller's could potentially be able to contribute towards targeting and identifiying possible bikes to steal, and the Criminal industry must be paying out these people for the info and intel they can so easily provide.

Of course im not implying that there is a significant percentage of these people involved, but all it takes is a few informants here and there for things to get noticed and targeted.

Also who else on here rushes to close their garage door when they hear the sound of the local scrap metal collection vans come up their street? I hate to have them see what is in my garage, as i do have a bit of a predjudice against anyone involved in the scrap metal business, whether it's justified or not.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I personally think these days that it's better to own a 125cc bike, or a trail bike, or a scooter instead of any mainstream bigger and popular models.


I would say you've just named the three types of bike most likely to get stolen Laughing

Best bet is something like my old CB-1...nobody wants that.

I had it unlocked parked on the street next to my Rieju SMX125 which had a chain on it...guess which one got nicked Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a perfect a world. there would be no need for secruity.

Would you really want bike secruity so impregnable that the only way for a thief to steal it is by physically having the key? Much like fancy top of the line cars.

Bearing in mind that could lead thieves no alternative but to actually break and enter into your homes in search of said key. Which I find quite scary, especially if you have young children.

Stolen fancy bikes, cars and construction vehicles no doubt end up in South Africa, Romania, Ukraine, Bulgaira.......
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I did in a way, but we all know the only type of people that steal these kinds of bikes. They aint in it for a career, or for making money from buying and selling parts. They are just the pondlife scum that want's your bike or my bike to rag across the fields/council estate etc, and then torch when they get bored.

If say either of us had a BMW R1200GS in our garage, then there is next to no risk from a chav scumbag stealing it, but a sought after adventure/expedition bike with accessories could be just the kind of thing that go's missing at the hands of organised criminals.

All i was saying is that own a small bike that obviously has great appeal to chav type people, and your probably eliminating one type of possible theft, and all you need to do is keep the scum away from your bike, and not really have to worry about it going to Poland or wherever else inside a shipping container etc.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I personally think these days that it's better to own a 125cc bike, or a trail bike, or a scooter instead of any mainstream bigger and popular models.

At least with a 125 or a Traile, all you need to worry about is keeping the local chavvy scumbags away, (easier said than done i know), but look at it this way, your never going to get the attentions of these organised professional expert theives that steal to order or for breaking and export. There isn't going to be enough money in these sorts of bikes to make a pro bother going for.

I agree, that the local trades persons mentioned, or delivery men/cold caller's could potentially be able to contribute towards targeting and identifiying possible bikes to steal, and the Criminal industry must be paying out these people for the info and intel they can so easily provide.

Of course im not implying that there is a significant percentage of these people involved, but all it takes is a few informants here and there for things to get noticed and targeted.

Also who else on here rushes to close their garage door when they hear the sound of the local scrap metal collection vans come up their street? I hate to have them see what is in my garage, as i do have a bit of a predjudice against anyone involved in the scrap metal business, whether it's justified or not.


yzf r125? rs 125?

Pretty expensive and higher demand compared to bigger bikes. Due to the influx in learner riders, maybe due to that get on bike scheme.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Yes I did in a way, but we all know the only type of people that steal these kinds of bikes. They aint in it for a career, or for making money from buying and selling parts. They are just the pondlife scum that want's your bike or my bike to rag across the fields/council estate etc, and then torch when they get bored.

If say either of us had a BMW R1200GS in our garage, then there is next to no risk from a chav scumbag stealing it, but a sought after adventure/expedition bike with accessories could be just the kind of thing that go's missing at the hands of organised criminals.

All i was saying is that own a small bike that obviously has great appeal to chav type people, and your probably eliminating one type of possible theft, and all you need to do is keep the scum away from your bike, and not really have to worry about it going to Poland or wherever else inside a shipping container etc.


No bike or car is save from theft. As you said, if you have a expensive bike then the organised gangs will target it. If you have a cheaper 125cc / trail bike then the local inbreded chavs will target it.

Which ever bike you own, should it ever be stolen it is still an an invasion of privacy from some one invading your home and the loss of a cherished possession.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
I assumed he was joking but it's a convincing scenario.

Unless he's schizo or genuinely believes himself to be scum I think he's trolling.
devojunior in another thread wrote:
post like this really do annoy me sometimes. if you bike was stolen and the scum were riding round on it id bet you that youd want every bike on the road to be stopped.

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PostPosted: 22:29 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throwing a slight twist on things.

Anybody ever fancied doing a bit of 'Bike Baiting'?


The idea sprung from when a mate of a mate wanted his bike gone, because it was worth more as an insurance claim.
So he left it on a local shitty estate with the key in. And yeah, within the afternoon, it was long gone.


I fancy buying one of those remote immobilizers online, rigging a bike up with the keys in somewhere, and then just waiting near-by.

Let them climb on, start it up, and get moving a bit. Then just hit the immob, bike cuts out, then you can enjoy kicking the living shit out of said bike theif. Cool
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyway you don't have to answer I was just interested and surprised that you choose to post about it on a bike forum that you've been on for a couple of years, and probably posted lots of personal information, it almost seems a little arrogant like you don't think anybody can touch you.


LOL....you HAVE been trolled. Rather successfully it would seem Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwaks wrote:
Kwakki Si wrote:
i usually break them down and sell them as parts, alot more money to be made that way and alot harder to trace the actual bike.


Seriously? You think it is something to kid about?


Um....i thought it was quite funny.
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