Crashed GS500, no electrics. Why??

[_Iain_]

Crashed the bike ('91 gs500-E)

Total electrical failiure when it came to assessing the damage, no lights, horn, indicators, dash backlights, no starter, absolutely bugger all.

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/0341dd13.jpg

This is the cover i smashed up doing it, and all the bits inside were in place, and perfectly fine. Cover took the slide, however as it's related to the ignition im wondering if the lack of electrics is down to that paying a major part in the electrical system? As far as im aware it wasnt tried with the bits under that cover in place. Or is there some sort of inertia switch (think car fuel cut off) that kills the electrics if the bike goes down? Perhaps this needs resetting if it even exists, info required.

Battery and all leads are still connected as far as i could see when going over it when i took the photo's, a few smashed indicators, but no cables hanging out or nowt, no obvious damage to battery.

I had planned to go back at it today/yesterday, but by then the swelling & muscle damage kinda set in and i thought better of it.
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[Casper]

You will have blown a fuse. Smashed indicators and the two wires touched cousing a short. You may also have pulled part of the loom if the bike took a slide.

[_Iain_]

In order for a short to happen the indicators would have had to be turned on.

None of the loom has any damage, or is out of place.

And the only fuse i can find is on the starter solenoid, which again wouldnt have blown or even if it had wouldnt blackout the rest of the electrical. Only the starter.

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/47717ec9.jpg

As you can see, if it had reached the loom then i'd have a flat headlamp bowl, and no clocks!

Batterys still making some kind of voltage, as the satnav chargers giving me a green light on the transformer box.
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[U_W v2.0]

take a multimeter to the wires past the selenoid. if you have power feeding through then keep probing and see where the power stops.

you really do need to check your 20amp fuse from the starters selenoid though.

only other thing that hints towards a complete electrical failiure is the neutral switch. (read somewhere that the neutral switch can cause these symptoms)

oh and if the casing came off a key electrical part it could have shorted out while it was sliding so double check that main fuse.

dont know if you have one of these but heres a wiring diagram for a GS500e

https://www.gs500e.co.uk/wire.jpg
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[mysterious_rider]

Hiya chap I can already see your problem. Inside that hole in the side is supposed to be a T shaped piece of circular metal, basically the crank turns it, and it chooses when to fire the spark plugs. That whole piece is missing!


I would check the fuse on the live from the battery. I take it you did this already?

[P.addy]

Heres my thread on it when I had the same

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=181920

[Vincent]

As above, there will be another fuse somewhere, follow the live lead from the battery 'till you find it.
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[mysterious_rider]

It's in the live feed about half a foot of cable away from where it bolts to the battery.
It's inside some weird electrical gismo. Pop the rubber cap of and you will see it.

[P.addy]

That said... if you are able to get it home...I'm at parents tomorrow and taking tcat to MOT.

[Teflon-Mike]

[_Iain_]

[dransy]

Main fuse
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