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 Posted: 08:57 - 18 Jun 2012 Post subject: Masked bikers denying council parking fines |
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Bored, unemployed, stupid, repetitive............  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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 Posted: 10:18 - 18 Jun 2012 Post subject: Re: Masked bikers denying council parking fines |
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| RhynoCZ wrote: |
Bored, unemployed, stupid, repetitive............  |
^^ Too lazy to actually read the article.
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"Their leader is trader Bob Wells, 52, who has led similar protests in Westminster and Bexley, Kent.
Mr Wells, owner of Printer and Cartridge Solutions in Woodgrange Drive, Southend, started his campaign following fears the spy car was driving vital custom away from his business. " |
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The $camera car footpads cried foul at first - some of them drove up to coppers and squealed "HALP! They're watching us! It's our job to watch them!" but it's come to nothing, since there's no offence being committed. As the schunters note, they're following the car, not the occupants. The footpads have since got used to it too - it gives them a handy excuse for not hitting their (alleged ) ticketing targets while they abandon their cars on double yellows and sod off to do their shopping.
Personally I think this is a brilliant wheeze bit of voluntary civil service, and fair play to those with the time and inclination to do it. To re-iterate: they're helping to ensure full compliance with the local parking and traffic restrictions, and they're doing so a lot more effectively than deploying teeny stealth cars with periscopes, a filthy Hunnish trick if ever I saw one.
It's popular with locals and goes a long way to mitigate the damage done by the Trafalgar Square lockdowns by the bike parking tax group that the No To Mob splintered off from. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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So pretty much everyone on this forum would get fined then. Because we own bikes we park on pavements if we're quickly nipping into a shop.  |
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 Posted: 11:11 - 18 Jun 2012 Post subject: Re: Masked bikers denying council parking fines |
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| stinkwheel wrote: | | RhynoCZ wrote: |
Bored, unemployed, stupid, repetitive............  |
^^ Too lazy to actually read the article.
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"Their leader is trader Bob Wells, 52, who has led similar protests in Westminster and Bexley, Kent.
Mr Wells, owner of Printer and Cartridge Solutions in Woodgrange Drive, Southend, started his campaign following fears the spy car was driving vital custom away from his business. " |
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It's like if you played some sport and someone would warn you, that referee's watching you
I won't change my mind, I do think it's stupid and useless. If you don't know the rules, then don't drive. Here's (in CZE) no one who would go and point a finger at a police car to save some drivers that don't know the rules. If you park your car in prohibited area, it's your fault if you get a ticket.
We also have unmarked police cars and interceptors here, but they do not catch some drivers that leave their cars right at the sign. I mean, police could and will give you a ticket for bad parking, but definitely not in a ''special'' police car ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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| RhynoCZ wrote: | Here's (in CZE) no one who would go and point a finger at a police car to save some drivers that don't know the rules. |
It depends how they're enforced. Here in Blighty, enforcement of many parking and moving "offences" is now primarily a revenue raising operation rather than a deterrent.
In this case, we're not talking about police, we're talking about private companies which have been contracted by councils in order to achieve the councils' goals of "100% compliance with no penalties".
However, since the enforcement companies get paid primarily through penalties, and the councils include penalties in their budgets - and run into funding problems when people actually start avoiding them - they're kidding nobody.
Anyway, I can't see your problem. Third time for luck, the bikers are simply helping people to obey ze rules, and to achieve that claimed "100% compliance with no penalties".
The footpads and councils haven't yet managed to come up with a way to prevent or even criticise that other than to bleat that the footpads feel "intimidated" by being watched. Poor dears, how simply dreadful of them to feel the shoe being on the other foot for a change.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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 Posted: 18:03 - 19 Jun 2012 Post subject: Re: Masked bikers denying council parking fines |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | | RhynoCZ wrote: | Here's (in CZE) no one who would go and point a finger at a police car to save some drivers that don't know the rules. |
It depends how they're enforced. Here in Blighty, enforcement of many parking and moving "offences" is now primarily a revenue raising operation rather than a deterrent.
In this case, we're not talking about police, we're talking about private companies which have been contracted by councils in order to achieve the councils' goals of "100% compliance with no penalties".
However, since the enforcement companies get paid primarily through penalties, and the councils include penalties in their budgets - and run into funding problems when people actually start avoiding them - they're kidding nobody.
Anyway, I can't see your problem. Third time for luck, the bikers are simply helping people to obey ze rules, and to achieve that claimed "100% compliance with no penalties".
The footpads and councils haven't yet managed to come up with a way to prevent or even criticise that other than to bleat that the footpads feel "intimidated" by being watched. Poor dears, how simply dreadful of them to feel the shoe being on the other foot for a change.  |
Alright then, I think I understand now.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Council quote with the fat cut out:
"unfortunately...they were not breaking the law"
So now you want people to break the law just for the thrill of punishing them?
Sadistic bastard. Bet he wears crotchless leather pants on a thursday night. ____________________ Avoid HASTINGS DIRECT SCUM
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Bikerdom at it's best.
Bikers generally get lumped with an "Outlaw" tag so it's nice to see some using their biker powers for good.
However, officialdom is (as usual) trying to sling some mud at our heroic comrades even though they are doing a civic duty.
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I'm almost disappointed that these cars are not getting vandalised on a regular basis frankly, the Plymouth ones are confirmed to routinely fine people for simply pulling over and offloading passengers on the main shopping street. The whole 'keeping the roads safe' is so far from the truth it's insulting.
And yeah, Plymouth council are doing a similar job here too, both with parking fees and outrageous business rates and fees. I can rent a house for less than what it costs to use a stall in our pannier market  ____________________ 2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST |
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| soforene wrote: | Bikerdom at it's best.
Bikers generally get lumped with an "Outlaw" tag so it's nice to see some using their biker powers for good.
However, officialdom is (as usual) trying to sling some mud at our heroic comrades even though they are doing a civic duty.
Gawd bless ya Lads !!  |
As much as we all think that councils, police, law enforcers are there for our good, in the end they are a business like any other. And like any business out there, they are here to make money and instead of selling goods and services, they are enforcing fines and tickets. Good on our biker bretheren to achieve the same "goal" without the the financial loss to joe blogs.... |
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That sucks so much! If you thought of it in a similar way you should now not try to prevent any crime. Lets say you were in the local newsagents and see someone stuff a special brew in their pocket you could be done for perverting the course of justice if you told them not to, after all the CCTV would provide a good chance of conviction.
I can't help thinking that if he had a proper lawyer he would've got away with it. But now he's a part of case law making it easier to convict anyone else.
Obviously that case was obstructing a police officer not improper use of headlights. That means a hand wave would be just as illegal. Perhaps using headlights is a better bet - at least they're likely to go for the easy fine rather than taking you to court.
I just installed trapster - an app that allows live reporting of speed cameras as well as showing all the static cams (there's a confidence rating system to prevent abuse). Surely that system (and similar ones) as well as those that use it are on dodgy ground too! ____________________ current: ducati monster 750
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 234 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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