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| Lyam wrote: | how would they know? |
First of all, you would have to get them past customs. & They will sieze non-UK complienet radio equipment, unless you have valid user licence for it.
Second; OFCOM monitor the air-waves. Commonly used 'illegal' frequencies they will target specifically for illegal use; they can impose BLUDY big fines for it.
Third, they monitor transmission power on legal frequencies for people breaching limits.
US (Or Australian) spec PMR radios DO NOT have ranges up to 50miles.
They use 4w transmitters, which are NO more powerful than UK legal 'licence free' CB-Radio, and can reach maybe 12miles or so in better conditions, but on 'less' robust higher frequency bands.
You get all the dissadvantages of PMR and all the dissadvantages of PMR, and risk prosecution for no real reason.
US radios that have the sort of range you are talking about are 'old' 1980's AM band CB-Radios.... a walkie talkie of that era will be teh size of a shoe-box and the weight of a car battery!
Bloke has half an idea and even less of a clue... and its a non-starter really!
Here:-
Bike 2 Bike Communication.... where to start
Read that; all you need to know. You have a choice between 'Cheap' and crap PMR more expensive and almost 'useful' PMR, then that and more robust and useful, but less used CB
And IF you really want illegal 'De-Restricted' 4w PMR... then there is hint in the post how to get it.... but its going to cost you £70 a radio, plus head-sets, and you risk being 'pinged' by OFCOM who do monitor PMR frequency for illegal use of unlicenced Taxi Radio.
You may as well, go CB for the same money, and get better range, reception & reliability, legally. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: |
First of all, you would have to get them past customs. & They will sieze non-UK complienet radio equipment, unless you have valid user licence for it.
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Not strictly true, you can buy all manner of grey market illegal imports through ebay. They are coming into the country all the time. They are not illegal to own, just illegal to use.
| Teflon-Mike wrote: |
Second; OFCOM monitor the air-waves. Commonly used 'illegal' frequencies they will target specifically for illegal use; they can impose BLUDY big fines for it.
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Not really, unless you are causing problems or are transmitting in the WRONG place you would probably be fine. By wrong place I mean emergancy services, marine VHF, HAM radio freqs (they patrol their own turf). Using PMR channels or UK general you can get away with easily, OFCOMM do not give a shit about them.
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Third, they monitor transmission power on legal frequencies for people breaching limits.
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Not really. Unless you are royally taking the piss, no one can really tell.
| Teflon-Mike wrote: |
US (Or Australian) spec PMR radios DO NOT have ranges up to 50miles.
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This is true.
| Teflon-Mike wrote: |
They use 4w transmitters, which are NO more powerful than UK legal 'licence free' CB-Radio, and can reach maybe 12miles or so in better conditions, but on 'less' robust higher frequency bands.
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Not true. Uk license free falls into 2 catagories. PMR446 - 500mW@446MHz and CB - 4W@27MHz.
| Teflon-Mike wrote: |
You get all the dissadvantages of PMR and all the dissadvantages of PMR, and risk prosecution for no real reason.
US radios that have the sort of range you are talking about are 'old' 1980's AM band CB-Radios.... a walkie talkie of that era will be teh size of a shoe-box and the weight of a car battery!
Bloke has half an idea and even less of a clue... and its a non-starter really!
Here:-
Bike 2 Bike Communication.... where to start
Read that; all you need to know. You have a choice between 'Cheap' and crap PMR more expensive and almost 'useful' PMR, then that and more robust and useful, but less used CB
And IF you really want illegal 'De-Restricted' 4w PMR... then there is hint in the post how to get it.... but its going to cost you £70 a radio, plus head-sets, and you risk being 'pinged' by OFCOM who do monitor PMR frequency for illegal use of unlicenced Taxi Radio.
You may as well, go CB for the same money, and get better range, reception & reliability, legally. |
Avoid CB, it sucks balls. It is only 4W, you need a 9ft antenna for it to work well, it weighs a ton and is affected by the weather.
Step 1. Read teflon mikes post about bike to bike communications. It will tell you all you need to know.
Step 2. Buy a pair of baofeng uv-3r radios (£60 for the pair from ebay)
Step 3. Buy a DECENT headset.
Step 4. Choose what freqs you want to use (PMR446, SDR433, UK general UHF/VHF).
Step 5. Profit.
Warning: what I am suggesting is technically illegal, however no-one can tell and even if the plod did see the radio, he would not know either. It is even more esoteric than spotting the 33BHp restriction. ____________________ [ $((RANDOM%6+0)) == 0 ] && ){ :& };: || echo "You live"
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Why would you need 50mile range if you are riding together?
I used to be quite into CB radios and to get a decent range from a home unit you have to have a massive antenna and a pretty decent rig taking up half the back bedroom!
Having said that I did have a fairly modest midland rig on the tractor I used to drive and with a (i think) 100cm ish antenna get out 8 or miles....could chat to my mate at home 6 miles away as crow flies.
Fact is though on a regular motorcycle you just don't have to room for the unit never mind the antenna.
I'm guessing like anything if you have the money and desire/knowledge you can do anything and probably legally too.
However in the real world a couple of PMR radios and helmet headsets and you'll be ok to a point, think of what it was like doing your lessons/test. You can easily get somewhat better results than that for little money.  |
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Why would you ever need that range? And why do you want to hear a mate moaning if he comes off? ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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| Peirre oBollox wrote: | I can imagine the the Op and his buddy wanting radios for when they`re screaming down the high St on their peds, oggling the local totty, and instead of shouting to each other, ere ...... look at the tits on her, does she take it up the gary etc, they can say it over the radio without the girl in question hearing what they`re shouting.  : |
We did an end of season run on the Wayfarer a few years back; gloriouse indian summer's sunday, and were grinding past pedestrians & cyclists, all annoyed at a bunch of Land-Rovers coming down the 'foot-path'....
Only half the group had CB so I had a PMR clipped to the seat-belt....
JUST as a female cyclist came level with my (OPEN) window, some-one squalked "Look at the air-bags on that one!"
Her boy-freind just behind fell into the hedge! But BOY did I get a 'Death-Glare!"
Bugger that said it NEVER owned up! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Old Thread Alert!
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