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[Visitor Q]

Hi y'all. The goose is annoying me what with reliability, and also i think with my recent CPS brush... toning down the bike is a good idea.

Anyway at the moment i am thinking of selling the goose and getting a honda CBF250 new, because i can get em new for about 2 grand (dad does business with them) and they seem quite cool.
Only thing is i dont know much about them. I know they take on from the T32 tank-esque cb250 of old. And they are designed to be cheap and cheerful and damn near bulletproof on reliability.
But im just wondering with barely 20 brake of poke, how fast do they go, 0-60. General handling and stopping. Anyone tried?

Plus can anyone else suggest something? I want something with really spot on handling and braking, a nice pillion seat and enough poke to not struggle on general riding and such, but just slow enough to aid my self restraint. So about 18-22 brake ish. Something like that. Also cheap like the budgy. So far the cbf250 seems best since i can get it new for cheap, but any other ideas?

P.S talking about my brush with the CPS... when do i get 'jammy goit' as a custum title?
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[Ste]

Getting a 250 will not stop you from speeding, the only real way to do that is self control and knowing when is appropriate and when is in-appropriate to push the speed limit. Getting a smaller bike could mean that you just want to rag it everywhere as once it's up to speed slowing down and then acclerating again is hassle, much easier just to stay at the high speed through that slightly dodgy bit.

If you want to speed then you will be able to do so on any bike, all getting a smaller bike will do is give you the false sense of security "I'm only on a 20bhp bike I'm okay going full throttle as it's not as powerful as my last bike".

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[G]

How about a NS125 or similar?

Though, unless you get a restricted 50cc ped, it's going to be self control you need.

I do find myself being dodgy occasionly, but am a lot better since the risk of losing my licence popped up. Decided I wanted it more than the fun I'd have riding like that.

[Visitor Q]

Ok ste on a different slant, my insurance was 550 tf+t before the 28 day disqual on a 33 brake. Hence to keep it roughly 550 i have to downgrade my bike and insurance.

And with me, believe me less power is more. I know going silly one way is just dumb. A 50cc 2 stroke you rag everywhere. A 125 you rag everywhere.

I guess i want what cars have. The growling revs and flying needles, yet the really really really slow speeds. Without being on a 50cc again mind you.

Also as i mentioned in another thread, who is more likely to get banned, someone on an R1 or a cg125? True the guy on the R1 could ride it very slowly and the cg125 guy could be a mentalist. However we all no, the R1 guy is gonna be in more shit more often. I just want my right hand to have a helping hand (ladies any offers ), i know i ride (or used to) above and beyond the legal a hell of alot, especially if im upset. But when i got on that gixxer 600, i barely felt it going 120. You really really knew when my goose went about 90 odd. And im hoping to get a bike that feels a tad giddy above 70 ish.

I dont do motorways.
They arent any fun at <90
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[Ste]

[lurker]

in theory i can see what some of you are saying but the reality of trying to stick to 30 or even 60 on an r1 or similar requires alot more self restraint than on a 125 or 250

[Ste]

Well if you're willing to go 70mph in a 30mph on a bike which can do it, then why would you suddenly not be willing to if you're put on another bike which can also do 70mph in a 30mph? Yes the R1 it is much easier to go faster and to be going faster in less time but I a 250cc bike will still get to 70mph without problems, yes on the R1 in the same time you could be doing 120mph+, but to not do 70mph in a 30mph on any bike it requires self control and if you're not going to have enough self control then your license is not going to last long at all. Just look at it in the way if you did something similar and got caught again you'd be fucked, very fucked, so don't do it, well only do it in more appropriate places.

[Sparks!]

Ste the thing is, riding a slower bike, although they go the same speed, the speeds feel very different...

50mph on my WR400 feels like 100 on the R6 (probably not quite but you get my point) so I rarely feel the need to try and go fast on it as I have more fun at slower speeds.

So bonny may not feel the need to do 70mph if it feels he's going fast at 50, yes he can still speed but he will always be able to speed so there is nothing that can be done about that.

But bonnys just stepping off a goose 350, not a R1/R6 so it'll be hard pressed to find something much slower than that without being shite, no offence but that goose isn't exactly fast
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[Ste]

The reason you're have fun at slower speeds on the WR is because you're happier about learning stunting on it yeah?

It does all come down to self control, no matter what bike and what engine size not speeding and not breaking other road traffic laws (in in-appropriate situations and places). If you're able to control yourself enough on a 250 you will also be able to on the Goose, if anything you'll probably find the 250 a more boring bike to ride so would want to ride faster as it then becomes more interesting, in the same way as sitting at 70mph on an quiet motorway is incredibly boring, going faster is less boring, add in a bit of filtering and you need to be paing attention 100% unlike just sitting on a quiet motorway at 70mph, but there are times when it is in-appropriate (well more in-appropriate than other times) to be pushing the speed limit.

If you get on a 250cc you'll still need to have self control in the same way you do on any bike otherwise you license won't last you long at all.

[Kickstart]

Hi

I agree with the comments that it is mainly up to the rider, and just about any bike above 50cc is capable of going quickly enough to loose your licence in a 30 limit.

However I also think that BR has a reasonable idea. Many sporty bikes have poor low down power and then a noticeable jump in the power, and many singles and twins are quite rough and juddery at low revs. Both of these encourage you to go more quickly, to a speed where the engine isn't trying to shake your teeth loose and where it is capable of responding without being given full throttle.

Not sure that a CBF250 is the best choice. It will have a smooth engine and no real steps in the power delivery, but it is also quite possibly going to be frustrating to ride.

At the end of the day it is will power that is needed (even if that is just enough will power to get you to a quiet NSL area).

All the best

Keith
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[Ste]

But riding at responsible speeds on either the R6 or the WR requires self control normally as most 30mph areas as very boring to ride.

If you were to take the R6 down tight twisty roads you would be doing a bit more than the 50mph on the WR but not much more, the WR is more at home than the R6 on small twisty back round though. The CBF will be about the same for enjoyment as the Goose, if not less enjoyable as Keith says, so I don't think riding the CBF at 30mph in a 30mph zone will be anymore enjoyable or interesting (and thus requiring the same amount of self control) then riding the Goose 30mph in a 30mph zone.

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[Ste]

There isn't such a thing as a " 'government approved' commuter type bike", if they catch you speeding they catch you speeding, yes if you're on a big sports bike with loud can and small plate they'll be pissed off further but I doubt there will be any difference between someone on a CG125 and someone a Goose 350.

I did mean that it is possible to do more than 70mph and to get banned on a CG125 in the same way bonny got caught doing 70mph in a 30mph, he could still do that on a CG125 without much diffuculty.

It doesn't take much effort on a CG125 to push speed limits (like 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's a bit) not much more than the Goose needed, so he would need to change the way he rides and his whole approach to speeding. As Yams says it is knowing where the more appropriate times and places are to speed, as there aren't many where doing 70mph in a 30mph zone is appropriate on any bike.

[lurker]

ok another way of looking at it is if you went out on the road in an schumachers ferrari f1 car it would take ALOT more self control to stick to the 30 speed limit than it would in a fiat panda

[lurker]

btw i had a cg125 as a first bike and only every managed to get 65 out of it and that was downhill with the wind behind me tucked in behind a lorry

[Ste]

I am not saying it is just as easy to speed lots on a smaller bike as you can speed less on a smaller bike, but on a bike like a 125 it is still quite possible to break speed limits into ban amounts. It is the same principle with any bike or car, to not speed has got to be down to self control rather than lack of ability to break the speed limit.

[G]

I could get 65 on the straight on my cg... managed 75 with a downhill and wind behind me .

Another thought, though. Coming off a zx6 and zx9 and occasionaly riding a NSR for a bit, I often found myself doing way faster than I should be in lower speed limits because I wanted to keep my speed up as the acceleration felt a lot worse relatively.

While on the zx9 I could just wait for the unlimited sign, turn the throttle and bugger off.

[Smoto Bob]

get an sr250,

Cant go fast the brakes are S**T
When you get fast(70+ ) it wobbles lol and feel like your braking the land speed record.

Wicked around round about can take anything

Take it to get petrol when you cant rember the last time you took it.
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