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lalaland
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PostPosted: 03:05 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Ground or wall anchor? New bike, no security yet! Reply with quote

Hi,

I am hoping to pick up a bike I want tomorrow (if no one beats me to it) but I will have to keep this in my back yard and am worried that some git will nick it.

I am seriously considering a ground or wall anchor, but not sure which to go for.

I am on a serious tight budget and don't have any concreate areas in the garden, just a grass area and an old style crazy paved area.

Would sticking a ground anchor in one of the flatter stone slabs be ok or would they lift or smash the slab?

Or should I get a wall anchor and put it in the brick work of my house?

I have never tried one of these before, so any advice would help.

Thanks
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PostPosted: 04:03 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice would to be to fit the anchor into the more secure wall area of your house. The paving slabs would be easy enough to smash, and a structural brick wall, not quite so easy.

Many ground anchors can be fitted to walls with a minimum of fuss.

I wish you many years of happy riding with your new bike Thumbs Up Smile.
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Smoto Bob
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PostPosted: 04:04 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: locking Reply with quote

Another option is mixing up come concrete in to a barrel/box with a tube through so you can put your chain though it.

(or by a few xt250's and chain ya bike to them lol )
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PostPosted: 04:18 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good advice, presuming you have a sufficiently large barrel/box.]

The problem is that you must make sure that said barrel/box is immovable. Any particularly intent thief can simply cut off the end of a narrow tube below the chain and carry the whole lot (with accomplices) into a van. Bear in mind also that a barrel full of concrete would be an akward obstacle as far as navigating your garden is concerned.

My advice stands, chain it to something, either a brick post (as I do with my bike) or run the chain through a ground anchor attached to your wall.
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big al
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would go for a solid structure,wall or ground anchor to wall sounds good,your garden doesn't.
mines in the front garden so i'm more at risk,so i,ve gone to the xtreme and fitted a small security camera out side my bed room window witch is connect to the video,that is recording every nite.
what's your new bike?
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lalaland
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefuly the VFR400 that I wanted, I am going tonight to pick it up which means I am charging around today borrowing a hammer drill from my mate and buying an anchor and chain as well as a rain cover.

I think I will go for the wall option, my brother's a builder / carpenter so he should be able to fit it to my house this afternoon without too much damage.

Thanks for the advice.
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Smoto Bob
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: securaty Reply with quote

One of those water barrels from a diy store full of cement ( ie the 50squid you could have spent on a little ground anckor) would weight like well allot more than the bike Shocked

And in a garden of mud and a shed thats well useful Thumbs Up

I have a PROPER=LOCK any one heard of these?? that i leave at my gf's house.

Box that weights more than 2 people can lift. front/rear wheel goes in with axils ends covered and a rotating pole gets locked into a captured protected lock on the side. And i got it 50squid off a mate. Will post a picture when i find one.
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lalaland
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone tried chaining 2 pitbulls to the bike and hiring a 24 hour sniper cover?
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lalaland
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

lalaland wrote:
Has anyone tried chaining 2 pitbulls to the bike and hiring a 24 hour sniper cover?
Actually, forget that. The thieving git would more than likely sue me for getting injured whil attempting to steal my bike... Thumbs Down
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GFK
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a metal shed for mine. Cost me nearly £300 but it was lockable and qualifies as a garage for insurance purposes. Also protects from the elements.

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This one, in fact. NSR fitted nicely, probably need a bigger one for bigger bikes though.
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: Re: securaty Reply with quote

Smoto Bob wrote:
One of those water barrels from a diy store full of cement would weight like well allot more than the bike Shocked


I spent £40 in Wickes and that got me a 220 litre water butt and sufficient sand, cement etc to fill it to the brim. It's not moving in a hurry. Very Happy

I made 2 channels through it using flexible heating tube - one measured so that with the back wheel up against it, my Monster wraps round with no slack, and the other holds a couple of those plastic sheathed cable things that I used to use to tie it to a lampost at my old place - these each have a lock at the end and mean that I can tie up to 3 bikes to the barrel, or normally I just use all the locks on my bike - only takes about 30 secs to chain it all up cos they're all permanantly attached to the barrel.

The main reason for choosing this over a ground/wall anchor was that I wanted to reserve my parking space when the bike wasn't there - a ground anchor is too easy for someone to park their car on top of.
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Smoto Bob
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 08 May 2004    Post subject: lock Reply with quote

tadaaaaa

Weights freeking loads, and it has holes inside the box so you can bolt it down as well!!!!
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 09 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What actually counts as a 'garage' for insurance purposes? My da' wants to build a small wooden motorbike shed to the side of one of our two conjoined (also wooden) sheds, between a fence. I'm guessing concrete/metal counts but not wood? If so I'd probably suggest bricks & mortar to him instead. Adding a shed alarm would be easy as the sheds have a feed from the house and their own fusebox/mcb thing.

Originally I planned to stick a bike in the front shed and cut a hole into the floor, and attach a ground anchor into the raised concrete platform below, but he wants the space all to himself.

This means he's got around 1m+ of width to play about with. Is there an average motorbike width? I looked at the specs of an RS125 and it's 75cm wide I think, I'd probably buy one of these - but would like it to be sufficiently wide enough not to worry about buying a larger cc bike. Length and height aren't really limited.

To Lala, I'd go with the anchor on the house as it's more secure, immovable and you'd also hear it in the house easily if someone attacks it.
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Danny
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 09 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many insurance companies ask if it's a brick built garage.
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Laura
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 09 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a wooden type shed 6 x 8. This for my insurance company counts as garage.
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lalaland
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 09 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

GFK wrote:
I bought a metal shed for mine. Cost me nearly £300 but it was lockable and qualifies as a garage for insurance purposes. Also protects from the elements.
This is the kind of thing I want to add to my garden, just a case of saving up now I've spent my recent spare cash on buying my bike etc.

Be nice to get one before winter though, wonder if a VFR400 fits in one?
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 09 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it isn't the cheapest solutiion available, but this is what i'm seriously tempted with https://www.airflowsafe.com/motorcycle-garages.asp not cheap as i say, but peace of mind is going to be massive with this i reckon Very Happy
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lalaland
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 09 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prices are excluding vat too? Shocked

I think I will stick with a shed from argos Very Happy
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