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PostPosted: 23:11 - 24 Jul 2012    Post subject: Qualifications Reply with quote

I would like some Smile


Im 26 and I'm a Service Tech for a very well known company that manufacture roof windows. Although I've always done pretty well with the jobs I've landed, I left school and got a job within weeks so never bothered with college.

I've been thinking about taking an evening course at a local collage to gain some sort of qualification, just for my own satifaction mainly but could come in handy as in the past I've not even been given an interview due to not having a bit of paper, regardless of skills and experience.

I've been with my company for 4 years now and have no plans to move on.

There are to courses local to me and im not sure which one is better.

CSKILLS Wood Occupations

NVQ Diploma

Level 1

=£500


or

City and Guilds Level 1 Award in Basic Construction Skills

=£340


Not sure if I could get help with funding?


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PostPosted: 23:20 - 24 Jul 2012    Post subject: Re: Qualifications Reply with quote

boundy wrote:
never bothered with collage.


I haven't got the patience for one either......

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PostPosted: 23:24 - 24 Jul 2012    Post subject: Re: Qualifications Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
boundy wrote:
never bothered with collage.


I haven't got the patience for one either......

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PostPosted: 23:34 - 24 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like where you work, speak to people higher up in the organisation or HR and say you'd like to progress your career with them, and what can they do to help you.

A bit of self drive is what people look for.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

NVQ = Not Very Qualified.

I'd go C&G.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both seem a bit crap

I'd go C&G
if that's what you want to get into...otherwise you're just wasting time and money, a level 1 is a low qualification afaik
level 2 is gcse equivalent?
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Both seem a bit crap

I'd go C&G
if that's what you want to get into...otherwise you're just wasting time and money, a level 1 is a low qualification afaik
level 2 is gcse equivalent?



The problem is alot of the evening courses require to have level 1 before starting level 2. If i could gi during the day i could go straight to level 2
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundy wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:
Both seem a bit crap

I'd go C&G
if that's what you want to get into...otherwise you're just wasting time and money, a level 1 is a low qualification afaik
level 2 is gcse equivalent?



The problem is alot of the evening courses require to have level 1 before starting level 2. If i could gi during the day i could go straight to level 2


That's because they want your money £££ Wink
And they know the only people who take evening courses are ones with jobs in the day, crafty fucks Mr. Green

Well you have to start somewhere, I suppose. Depends if you're going for it just becuase you can or becuase you want to get into it, I do enjoy gathering certificates, makes my folde rlooks sexy

Level 2 courses are farces as well in my experience tbh
I did a level 2 door supervision, level 2 retail, level 2 adult numeracy
All were bollocks and easy as fuck, but needed to have them to do other things, they seem to be a prerequisite for NVQs and alike I think, not that I bothered going further with any of them. I certainly wouldn't have paid for those courses anyway, but that's just the kind of bellwad I am Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
I did a level 2 door supervision...


What the fuck is that? I have a way overactive imagination and have a vision of you ensuring a door opens and closes correctly. Much call for that? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Werny wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:
I did a level 2 door supervision...


What the fuck is that? I have a way overactive imagination and have a vision of you ensuring a door opens and closes correctly. Much call for that? Mr. Green


It's so when parents go out they can leave their doors at my house and i'll clean them and feed them and take them for walks and stuff and call them if anything bad happens Thumbs Up

It's a prerequisite for the standard SIA license Wink
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother with an NVQ as you've already got experience, having a vocational qualification isn't really worth it.

Try to go for a higher level like a level 3 BTEC or something, should be able to do them part time but might have to wangle different hours at work or something.

Otherwise look at distance learning like the OU, they do loads of lower level courses, and most of them will go towards higher qualifications like degrees if you decide you like doing it and do well at it.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a night course a while ago in Photography. I enjoyed it immensely, I think the main reason for this was that I didn't get a qualification, it was learning to learn. Unless you can see it giving you a better job or more money, I wouldn't bother with something that gives you a qualification.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Level 1 really is the bottom of the scale, as you have age and experience on your side I would speak to the college and see what level they can fit you in at. You might find that you'll go straight in at level 3 (A-level IIRC) which should test you, as its far more involved than proving you can count to potato. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Both seem a bit crap

I'd go C&G
if that's what you want to get into...otherwise you're just wasting time and money, a level 1 is a low qualification afaik
level 2 is gcse equivalent?



The problem is alot of the evening courses require to have level 1 before starting level 2. If i could gi during the day i could go straight to level 2
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundy wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:
Both seem a bit crap

I'd go C&G
if that's what you want to get into...otherwise you're just wasting time and money, a level 1 is a low qualification afaik
level 2 is gcse equivalent?



The problem is alot of the evening courses require to have level 1 before starting level 2. If i could gi during the day i could go straight to level 2


Why bother?
If you're already working and it wont help you progress further then the only point in doing it is to waste some time and money Thinking
Or if you were going for a career change
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

City&Guilds is generally more highly thought of, in my experience.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't City & Guilds just the awarding body and NVQ a type of qualification Confused
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al wrote:
Isn't City & Guilds just the awarding body and NVQ a type of qualification Confused

I was always under the impression that it was a recognised form of certification, as well as being the awarding body.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably its all quite confusing.

I did a tech certificate at college and a work based NVQ alongside it. Both certificates are awarded by City & Guilds though.
Companies I've seen advertising jobs only seem to ask for the NVQ qualification as this shows you have experience in the industry.
But it probably works differently in different trades.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have lvl 3 NVQ & c&g. It's pretty much the standard now although it was part of my apprenticeship.


Lvl1 will get you nowhere, and I can't see it being an advantage for a window repairs, experience is what is necessary.

On the otherhand, like you said - it is nice to have some sort of accreditation hence why you think it could be beneficial to you personally.

Only you can decide whether it's worth it or not because your the one who is going to have to bother going to them.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Re: Qualifications Reply with quote

boundy wrote:
Im 26 and I'm a Service Tech for a very well known company that manufacture roof windows.

I've been thinking about taking an evening course at a local collage to gain some sort of qualification, just for my own satifaction mainly but could come in handy as in the past I've not even been given an interview due to not having a bit of paper, regardless of skills and experience.


As you get older, work history becomes more important than qualifications.

If you are wanting to do it for your own gratification. Then choose something you want to do and will enjoy. Rather than something you think may help in the future.

If you want to go for work related courses, then talk to someone at work about it. They will be best placed to advise if they can assist with funding and also time off work to cover the course.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Level 1 anything is a waste of time - thats below A-C at GCSE and nothing more than an introduction to a subject.

Why don't you research jobs you might like to do; what qualifications are they asking for? Look at those, and ones needed to progress from where you are now with your current employer.

If you'd like to learn online, in your own time, https://alison.com/ has lots of free qualifications and would be a start Wink
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 25 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've started phasing the NVQ qualification out...best look for something with a little more umph, especially if you're planning to pay for it.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 26 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't waste your money, i've got city and guilds levels 2 in various engineering disciplines and an NVQ2 in similar.

Not worth the paper they are written on. At all.

If you want to study something for your own interest, then just buy the relevent books and study it.

If you want pieces of paper, then do something half worthwhile like Open University.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 26 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al wrote:
Isn't City & Guilds just the awarding body and NVQ a type of qualification Confused


Yes!

I work for a college in East Anglia and I deliver NVQ`s for both City & Guilds and Edexell.

Level 1 = entry level
Level 2 = General competence and knowledge of the trade
Level 3 = supervisory level.

you can do "awards", "certificates" or "diplomas"
Each component/unit of your qualification will have a number of credits and they add up to make up your "award", "certificate" or "diploma"

Most awarding bodies/colleges wont put you on a level three until you`ve got a level two.
Although that is not written in tablets of stone.
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