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snikks Spanner Monkey
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CoolBanana wrote: | Pro-cycling stuff |
Used to be a very keen cyclist, commuted to work on a bike more than once as well as completing three wild wales challenges. I don't have a problem with cyclists on the road, I have a problem with cyclists belting down pedestrian footpaths, cycling whilst chatting on their phones and weaving through pedestrians, zipping through red lights with no care for other road users, veering out into the road with no safety checks, forcing their way through pedestrians on the tow-path.. Never used to see this behaviour in North Wales, but in Oxford it's very much the norm & London appeared just as bad. They're a danger to themselves, pedestrians, other cyclists and motorcyclists. ____________________ - CBT: 02/01/11 Theory: 26/04/11 Mod 1: 19/05/11 Mod 2: 19/08/11
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I came very close to squashing a number of lycra-clad cyclists yesterday - I was driving my car down the main road through my village, there were loads of parked cars on the other side of the road, I spotted a party of 4 cyclists (riding 2 abreast) coming the opposite way.
They waited until I was level with the parked cars (on their side of the road), before swinging out onto the 'wrong' side of the road.
Obviously, they expected me to stop for them, which wan't going to happen - as far as I'm concerned, if you have to use the opposite carriageway to pass an obstruction, then you should check it's clear first.
So, I didn't stop.
The first pair of cyclists had the common sense to pull into single file (leaving them enough room to pass the parked cars on their side of the carriageway), the second pair failed to comprehend this until the very last minute and had to swerve in and stop.
Through my open window I heard one of the cyclists protest (in a loud 'Mercan drawl) 'Oh my gaawd, did you just see that??' Clearly, they were expecting me to just pull to a stop and let them through in their formation.
How wrong they were.
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TheBikerStig Crazy Courier
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Posted: 23:30 - 25 Jul 2012 Post subject: Re: Cyclist attitudes. |
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chris-red wrote: | Reading about the Zil Lanes in under on the beeb and they posted this tweet from some idiot.
Quote: | "If London can give up some road lanes for the Olympics, it can give them up for good. After the Games, turn them into cycle lanes." |
I often see this kind of nonsense coming from various cyclists aswell as call from some to ban all motorized traffic in London.
This sort of thing gets on my Tits are well I think the quote
Quote: | In his company's magazine, Add Lib, Addison Lee chairman John Griffin sparked widespread anger by suggesting that cyclist death and injury is inevitable as cyclist numbers increase, and is largely the fault of untrained cyclists. |
Is fair and app. I know 3 people hurt cycling up London, ALL cycling up the inside of Buses/HGVS, which even I, having cycled in London once know is a big no no. 90% of them even have warning signs on the back of them.
https://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2012/apr/24/addison-lee-protest-boycott-chairman
https://www.eta.co.uk/2012/07/18/ban-cars-every-sunday-make-way-bicycles
Take the Girl that hit Serendipity too, another moron plugged into an ipod, with no training breaking the law cuasing an accident which she will never pay for.
Anyway back on point after my mini rant, I feel an easy comparison can be drawn between us and cyclists. Too me it would seem they have vastly more extremist views as to how they should be treated compared to us. You never her bikers coming out with that kind of crap, we just deal with it. Why do cyclists feel like the world owes them something? Comparatively they should be given less seeing as they pay no road tax.
I can't believe there was outrage that they aren't allowed in the Olympic lanes either. The lanes design is to give them the Olympic crew fast road travel in the capital. Being stuck behind a cyclist doing 10-20mph is not conducive to this, allowing motorbikes would be a better idea as there footprint is similar to a cycle yet they have the speed to not be in the way. Did bikers get up in arms about this despite being a more logical choice to be allowed in the lanes, no, oh well that sucks I'm changing my route to work (which today was actually much quicker than before strangely).
All the Zil Lanes I have seen have been in the outside lane to where cycles rarely go so what's the big deal, they are affected less than the rest of us.
We put both up with the same shit from blind drivers and a quick glance at stats that show hospital admission due to road accidents in London shows that we have a similar chance of ending up in hospital - Cyclists 231, Motorcyclists 236.
I have no problem with cyclists in London in general, I don;t think they should be off the road, I do think Insurance and number plates are a good idea, but I see that is impracticable and never going to happen. I just think their horse is VERY high, with an unstable base.
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Thats not a valid argument anyway. We all have the option of riding a bicycle and therefore we have the option of not paying road tax. Circumstances involving travelling distances are irrelevant. What I hate is people in cars that think they are cyclists. No need to drive 20-30 mph everywhere and LEAVE ME SOME **$£IN SPACE!!! What we need are police free zones. The way these work is basicaly there are designated areas where police are not allowed under any circumstances. This leaves us free to drag some numpty into such an area and deal with him or her accordingly. ____________________ Some say that he is the sole survivor of Atlantis, and that he refused to speed test a new Hayabusa this morning simply because there was no milk for his Brexit. All we know is hes called TheBikerStig. |
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I cycle a lot and obviously motor bike a lot. Id have to agree with 'UnknownStuntm...' theres nob heads in all manners of disguises. Id personally think motor bikes and cycle shave a lot in common, especially for city use. Get along folks ____________________ Stand up paddle surfing wales Caravan decking wales |
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Righto I am biased about this but with reason.
I drive for a living (20 years PCV at the moment) and have used a push-bike for work for long periods during that time .
As someone has said above there are idiots using all forms of transport, but with all apologies to the good ones, cyclist are without a doubt the worst road users I come across on a day to day basis driving in the city.
examples this week only
Cyclist comes down side road to the left does not stop despite my dirty great big bus being about 10 feet away doing 40mph, he looked, saw me and thought fook it I will do it anyway, causing me to brake heavily to avoid him .
Cyclist overtakes me in slow moving traffic on the pavement (no problem with that) but then jumps the bike into the road 2 foot in front of me just as I am accelerating as traffic clears, cue more heavy braking
An everyday occurrence on two stretches of road we use that HAVE cycle lanes is that cyclists DON'T use the lanes because they are 20 foot longer than the roads (NSL busy roads)
As I said I see stupid driving from all road users but the above is the norm for most cyclists, so much so I leaned out of the window on one occasion to thank a cyclist for his good manners as it is so rare, he thought I was a loony I am sure.
Low points this year
Cyclist going between bus and curb whilst I am unloading (at bus stop), cue bike v granny collision.
Cyclist undertaking HGV that was clearly turning left , cue poorly cyclist, I actually had a moment of schadenfreude on that one as he had come up the inside of me and as I could see the HGV was going to turn left so beeped my horn to warn him, only to get the finger.
Cyclist going under my bus (He was OK thank god) , Why, riding nohanded whist listening to Ipod and attempting to answer mobile phone. |
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Posted: 09:32 - 26 Jul 2012 Post subject: |
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On a serious note (despite my flippant posts above) I do think the cyclist lobby are more organised than the motorcycle lobby.
Thinking about it they can put lots of happy smiling faces on the street and in front of the media's cameras. Lots of families too with their ikle kiddies enjoying this green transport plus it's healthy exercise as well.
Let's not forget the kudos of the cycling team success at the Olympics, World Championships and recent Tour de France.
What do motorcyclist offer, black leather clad helmet wearing intimidating cyborgs riding big noisy machinery.
On motorcycle racing success I suspect the general public could still only name Barry Sheene as a British champion racer So hardly in the public conciousness. Plus motorcycles are dangerous, when was the last time a road was closed due to a bicycle accident? (ok, I'm sure it happens, just doesn't make national traffic reports as often, if ever).
Having worked in the Netherlands they have a more laid back attitude to bicycles. I admit it's a cultural thing and I doubt we could get that here.
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I don't know why cyclist stop at the lights, cus round our way they all ride on the pavements and nobody says anything about it. ____________________ I once saw a bloke shagging a donkey.... in Saudi arabia. Theory Test Passed 26/10/09 Mod 1 Passed 26/4/10, Mod 2 Passed 7/6/10 Current Bikes Suzuki GSX1400 K5, Aprillia Pegaso 650, Suzuki DR350T. |
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Some coherent thinking with the cycle network would be a great help.
I fairly regularly cycle in York and I now refuse to use the roadside cycle lanes, they were designed by some absolute moron.
They leave and rejoin the carriageway and they cross side roads all over the place leading to right of way conflicts, pedestrians have to stand in the cycle path to cross the road and sometimes they just stop abruptly for no apparent reason.
The newer ones carry cyclists round with the pedestrians inside a barrier part way down the bigger side roads then suddenly all traces of the cycle lane disappear for the pedestrian crossing, then it reappears again after as if they had no idea how to deal with it.
Here is a classic example. This is brand new, I just ride along the road, it's safer.
I actually felt compelled to talk to one woman the other day. She was clearly one of the better off York residents judging by the "classic" style shopper bike she was riding. She went merrily wobbling up the inside of a bendy bus as it went round a left hand bend. I pulled alongside her once we were on the river cycle lane to explain a few salient facts about the way these busses manouver and the visability the driver has. She had not the slightest idea how much danger she was putting herself in. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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The thing that really pisses me off is those cyclists who ignore the highway code. The thing is, they know that if anything happens, it won't be their fault. No matter what they've done wrong (gone through a red light, gone the wrong way down a one way street etc), it won't be their fault. It will always be the fault of the poor sod who hit them.
Another thing that annoys me is the cyclists that ride down the walkway outside our house. We have a staggered barrier at one end that is supposed to stop them riding down the path. It is a minor inconvenience to these idiots. I've had a stand up argument with a number of cyclists who have nearly hit my kids by riding down this path at speed.
Can you surgically remove a whole bike from up someone's arse?
Mind you, for some of these cyclists, they seem to think that the sun is up there, so a bike shouldn't be too much of a problem. ____________________ CBT - 22/10/08 & 30/5/11, Theory - 13/06/11, Mod 1 - 26/9/11, Mod 2 - 29/9/11
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Shielder wrote: | The thing that really pisses me off is those cyclists who ignore the highway code. The thing is, they know that if anything happens, it won't be their fault. |
On the rat runs into the City of London the police occasionally hang around at a set of lights & nick light jumping cyclists. They usually have a little herd of the buggers queuing for their bollocking.
Saw a beut of a bicycle crash on Tuesday night, I'm waiting at a red light on a cross roads when a cyclist comes steaming up my inside obviously intending to jump the light, changes his mind at the last second and does a 80 degree stoppie. The cyclist behind him splats into the back of him and bounces on to the pavement like a skittle. No one hurt (or angry either ), it was bloody hilarious. ____________________ They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 276 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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