A2 without course

[GoBike]

I did my CBT nearly 2 years ago and now Im trying to change from 125cc to 250cc scooter. I’m commuting every day on very busy roads without problems. So I feel quite confident and have the idea to save money and try passing mod 1 and 2 with no course. Could anyone recommend that or anyone did that?

I also would like to try drive my own bike on the A2 exam /with 2 years restriction/ but don’t know if it is possible.

Thanks for suggestions.

[kotachi]

I did exactly the same thing. Took my cbt, bought a 125 and rode it and then 4 months later (a month ago now) sat my mod 1 and mod 2 without lessons and passed both first time. Just takes confidence.

I'm pretty sure you would want to sit them on a geared bike though? So if you've been riding a scooter just make sure you're up to speed with gearing
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[Teflon-Mike]

Yes, possible to take tests without training, and do it on your own bike. If you are riding every day, and are still alive, you are probably capable of passing... though chances are you will fail on points of technique you have never been taught.

Your call whether you want to get some lessons ahead of tests to dress your riding and gain confidence it simply suck it and see.

End of the day, training, improving your skills is worth a lot more than merely getting a licence; can save your life.

How much you planning on spending on a bigger scooter? How long do you expect that to last? How much is training? How long will that know-how last? Which is better VFM?

Tests cost £121.50 a set.... start with the Theory/hazard, you need that either way, then Mod 1 is £15.50 a pop, may as well book it and try, given you could probably have four or five goes at it for the price of one lesson.

Just leaves Mod 2 practical to worry about.

However, testing on a scooter?

If its not capable of 60mph then you will only be able to test for A1 - 125 only licence, and you wont be able to ride a 250 without passing another test to upgrade to an A or A2 entitlement.

If the scooter is twist and go 'automatic' transmission, also, your licence whether A1 125 only, or A-Restricted will be endorsed 'Automatic Only', and you wont be able to ride a geared machine, which means you will effectively be limited to twist and go scooters... you could ride a 250 or 400 super-scooter on one, but does severely limit choices.

Given its the same tests regardless of what you take them on, and the same cost; worth doing them on a geared 125 or DAS bike, to give you as few unnecessary restrictions for the cost/effort as you can get.
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[Cheerfulgrin]

Hi,
I have done the A2 licence without training, just book the module 1 test online, £15.50 I think, you can get a diagram of the layout of the course from DVLA site so set up a practice route in a deserted car park or something and have a practice at the maneuvers. There are videos showing the test on YouTube.

If you still have your cbt and theory test then do the module 2, that's about it really.
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[Andrew122]

I did mod 2 without any training. Mod 1 I did have training for. Good luck!
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[GoBike]

Thank you.

I only need to confirm if is it possible to pass the practical test on my own scooter which I know the best. On any other machine I may not be fully prepared. I have heard that there is a list of bikes officially accepted to be used in the test.
I’m planning to do some exercise on parking figure, slaloms etc. Also read and remember all tips and experiences from the forum and try to pass.
First of course need to pass theory test next week which I’m working hard on.
My plan is simply like Ryanair goals: save as much money I can without compromising safety.

[hedgehugger]

Lots of people pass with no lessons, using their own bikes. If you take it on an automatic, your licence will restrict you to automtics only.
Take it on a geared bike and you can ride manual or auto'.

[J.M.]

Another one for mod 1 + 2 with no lessons and passing first time.

Don't do it on a scooter though. Do find a geared bike to do them on because otherwise you will have a licence restricted to "Auto". Do geared because in the future you will be able to ride whatever you like, not find a geared bike and realise you need to take another test.
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[Rogerborg]

Piece of pie, as long as your scoot can make the 48 kph parts of the Mod 1 test. It only costs £15.50 to find out.

There's a small risk that some filthy DSA pedant (apologies for the redundancy) might consider that it's an A1 bike unless you can show evidence to the contrary. What make/model is it?
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[anthony_r6]

I did a practice on the Mod 1 course a few weeks before my original Mod 1 date. I was struggling with the figure 8, so went back and mastered it on my own. No problems once I finally did the Mod 1 - was all over very quickly, in fact so quickly I thought I'd failed.

I passed Mod 2 on my 3rd attempt. Stupidity and electrical failure prevented me passing in the instances before. Took away from the buzz of passing too, as I was just happy to be done with it by that point.
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[Teflon-Mike]

[Rogerborg]

Out of interest, how much training have you paid for, Mike? We can convert from shillings and groats.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[kernow24]

[Rogerborg]

DSA list as of 30/04/2012.

I wasn't even asked what my de-branded HN125-8 was, it's going to come down to the clipboard jockey on the day.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[Teflon-Mike]