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Two posts and already this thread is full of fail!
First off, the software is NOT intelligent. If it were, then there would be no capacity to make mistakes. This software can completely screw up your bike and must be used with care.
Secondly, Tuneboy is not the same as TuneECU. Tuneboy is australian, and very very expensive. TuneECU is french, and free.
You cannot easily use TuneECU to tweak map settings unless you know what you are doing. The only real way for the layman (especially one who does not have access to a dyno) to use it is to download pre-made maps from the web. Most are available on the TuneECU site. If there is not a blueflame can map for the Speed four, I'd be wary of choosing a random map and trying it as you have no clue whether it will be right or not. In actual fact, even if there IS a blueflame map listed on the tune ECU site for the same year Speed Four you have, you've got no way of proving that it will work...
By all means try it, but you need to be aware that you can potentially screw the bike up, especially if you don't check that the VIN number range is correct for the map you're using etc...
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Chris-red posted about this a while ago: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=222439
There are links to sites that have custom maps in that thread somewhere, but as marjay has said, you could royally fuck things up if you do it wrong. |
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| MarJay wrote: | Two posts and already this thread is full of fail!
First off, the software is NOT intelligent. If it were, then there would be no capacity to make mistakes. This software can completely screw up your bike and must be used with care.
Secondly, Tuneboy is not the same as TuneECU. Tuneboy is australian, and very very expensive. TuneECU is french, and free.
You cannot easily use TuneECU to tweak map settings unless you know what you are doing. The only real way for the layman (especially one who does not have access to a dyno) to use it is to download pre-made maps from the web. Most are available on the TuneECU site. If there is not a blueflame can map for the Speed four, I'd be wary of choosing a random map and trying it as you have no clue whether it will be right or not. In actual fact, even if there IS a blueflame map listed on the tune ECU site for the same year Speed Four you have, you've got no way of proving that it will work...
By all means try it, but you need to be aware that you can potentially screw the bike up, especially if you don't check that the VIN number range is correct for the map you're using etc...
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I see what your saying. It is indeed a bit of a lottery, I knew that the software was not intelligent in anyway and that screwing things up was easy and very possible.
What options are there for someone who doesn't have the confidence with this then? I take it that a rolling road setup place would be able to map it so that the bike was compatible with the exhaust and iron out niggles?! What sort of money should that cost?! |
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You would have to do something incredibly silly to 'screw up' your bike, short of dropping a nut into the intake trumpets its pretty much foolproof, |
That is not true, and the reason I know it is not true is because I did it on my old 955i. I uploaded a map for the early Sagem ECU to the later Sagem ECU, and the bike stopped working altogether, and I couldn't upload a new map. I had to contact the TuneBoy guy in Australia, and he had to make me a special build of the code that would work with my ECU, and ignore the connection errors, to reset it to factory defaults. Without that support the bike would have been a huge paperweight.
Also, note all of the warnings on the site about connecting to the Tiger 800 etc with TuneECU. Those warnings are there for a reason. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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I used it to disable the exhaust valve on a daytona 675 and update a map for the new can on my latest D675.
Dead easy to use, I'd stick with published maps rather than tweaking your current map. We upped the rev limit on a race bike by 500rpm once, and a couple of laps later the rod came out the front of the block! (Thats bad by the way )
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I used it to disable the exhaust valve on a daytona 675 and update a map for the new can on my latest D675.
Dead easy to use, I'd stick with published maps rather than tweaking your current map. We upped the rev limit on a race bike by 500rpm once, and a couple of laps later the rod came out the front of the block! (Thats bad by the way )
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Old Thread Alert!
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