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I got my socket type allens from Machine Mart, iirc
and I hear good things about "Halfords Professional" tools if availability is a problem ____________________ 1st bike (Sept'06 - May'10) : 1991 GPZ500S / Current bike (since Nov 2009) : 2003 Suzuki Bandit 600N
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I buy LASER ball-end allen keys for £12 a set from my local car spares place. They are a good fit and never twist or break. I go through two or three sets a year because I tend to lose them at work.
Worth considering. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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I have a set of halfords 1/2" drive socket ones. These are good.
I also use the bit type in a ratchet screwdriver. These are also good as I have a selection of original 5mm and replacement stainless 4mm on the bike.
I can also recommend the ball type but find you need the longer lever of the square end to crack open the bolt first. I think my ball set were from aldi. They're ok but another set I have (can't remember where from) are a bit bendy.
So if you can I'd use a socket set and/or the bit type.
HTH  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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I use Halfords socket based ones. Never had an issue  |
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Cheers for the link I just bought a set. Some scrote on site nicked mine last week - he got a bonus too as I had a metric set and imperial set taped together  ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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| sickpup wrote: | | stupidgit wrote: | might be yank sizes . there ever so slightly different |
What are you talking about?
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Presumably he's exhorting poor Promufa to be sure they're using the right size allen for the bolt. If, for example, you're trying to use a millimetre-sized allen (european/japanese) in an inch-sized (american, older british) bolt - e.g. a 6mm allen in a 1/4" (6.3mm) bolt - it might look and initially feel like it's the right fit, but that 0.3mm difference is just enough that it'll wiggle slightly in the cutout and, with application of enough force, end up slipping and rounding both the allen AND the bolt cutout.
Though it could just be a problem that either the key, or the bolt itself is made of such cheap crappy mild steel that it's simply giving way under the strain. And I include the bolt as a potential culprit as I've suffered this problem with allen and star head bolts on my previous car. They weren't even doing anything structural or high-load, just stopping some pencil coils from jolting free of the spark plugs, and were decidedly oversized for the job, but may as well have been made out of cheese for all the resistance their inner surfaces offered to my tools. Eventually struggled them all out by a variety of means, got matching hard-as-death hex head replacements of the same spec, and binned the originals with great prejudice - replacing a few other looky likeys in the engine bay at the same time.
Echoing what at least one other person has said above - if you can't afford, or can't easily source super pricey professional-mechanic-grade stuff, then Machine Mart and Halford's midrange offerings are perfectly good for the home mechanic. The only thing from either place I've had a problem with was a cheapest-of-the-cheap, nasty little rachet that came in a multi-tool set I picked up for about a quid in the christmas sales one year. Worked ok for a little while, until I put some proper force on it, and the middle just dropped out. Replaced it with a proper one from the same place that still cost less than a tenner by itself and it's been absolutely solid. The matching torque wrench (about £20?) has proved well up to the task of dealing with head bolts and even car wheel hub bolts (with the help of a length of scaffolding pipe), and their variously socketed and quarter-inch-mini-rachet-compatible allen / star / spline / etc bits have given sterling service. Particularly the (socketed) allens + the (midsize) rachet are generally way, way better than yer typical allen key if you really need to give something a bit of torque.
I mean, they'd probably have worn out in abysmally quick time if I was a pro mechanic, but for the occasional home DIYer, they're perfectly good quality and fairly good value too. The torque wrench alone has saved me probably twice its purchase price just from allowing me to remove then properly re-install the rear wheel so I can have the tyre / inner tube replaced without paying the garage to dismount and remount it, and even saved me from having to have the bike transported home when the tyre self-destructed fifty miles up the M6 (just had to get myself up there with a spare wheel and the tools).
Lidl stuff... I can take or leave, to be honest. If you need a particular thing to finish a job, can't borrow it, and may not use more than twice, then they're exceptional value. Whether they'll last long term is a bit of a gamble - the quality of their merchandise is, well, rather variable, and often it's the most important parts of a brace of items that goes wrong. You should definitely keep your receipts.
For starters, I like their bike socks quite a lot, and the boots are OK, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I buy another of their helmets, after the last one literally fell apart whilst I was wearing it. On a fast A-road.
Their DVD players are very good even without considering the price, but they can't make an MP3 player to save their lives.
And their sockets and spanners seem OK, as far as I can tell (having barely used the ones I bought - which were as cheap for each full rack as it would be to plug the last couple of holes in my Halfords and hand-me-down collection), but I also bought a dremel type thing, and its speed controller shorted after about ten minutes of use. This left me with a choice of "really rather too fast for today's half-completed task of gouging neat holes in a few bits of wood I can't use a 'proper' drill on without starting a fire" or "seriously far too bloody fast for pretty much anything at all", rendering it largely useless unless I take up amateur dentistry or use it's motor as the power unit for some small and noisy motion diorama. |
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The set I bought turned up today - less than 24hrs from ordering to reception. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 128 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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