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 karthead Trackday Trickster
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 Posted: 10:55 - 21 Jul 2012 Post subject: Car alert* Starting after 2 years |
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Long story short. We have a Ford Telstar TX5 Ghia (same as mazda 626) with an I4 engine. It's been sitting for a bit over 2 years because it had a blown head gasket. Skimmed the head, replaced the gasket (no, not with a safety pin), put it together and the battery is absolutely dead. I didnt change the oil or fuel, and tried jump starting it with a toyota camry and it turned over pretty slow, not fast enough to be able to start it.
So, main questions:
- Is the fuel still good, or would i need to change it?
- I'm worried that if it turns over slowly when im jump starting it, it wont turn over quick enough to start it with the proper battery. Should i be worried? If this is the case, what could be the problem?
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 Posted: 11:13 - 21 Jul 2012 Post subject: Re: Car alert* Starting after 2 years |
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| andresoccer10 wrote: | Long story short. We have a Ford Telstar TX5 Ghia (same as mazda 626) with an I4 engine. It's been sitting for a bit over 2 years because it had a blown head gasket. Skimmed the head, replaced the gasket (no, not with a safety pin), put it together and the battery is absolutely dead. I didnt change the oil or fuel, and tried jump starting it with a toyota camry and it turned over pretty slow, not fast enough to be able to start it. |
When you say you skimmed the head, did you do that 'sandpaper glued to a table' thing, or did you send it off to get it skimmed properly? ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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 Posted: 11:21 - 21 Jul 2012 Post subject: Re: Car alert* Starting after 2 years |
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thanks heaps, makes perfect sense
so, what are your thoughts on the fuel? |
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| andresoccer10 wrote: | how would that effect how it turns over anyways? |
Ordinarly, it wouldn't, but given some of the things you've come out with previously, I wouldn't elect to eliminate any possibility.
Check earthing points, check continuity, change fluids*, charge/replace battery.
*oils, that is.
I have no idea as to what the quality of petrol in Aus is like, but if it's anything like USian standards of petrol, it might be worth trying some fresh petrol out, too. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Hi
Fuel might be an issue, but won't affect the speed it cranks over.
How much was skimmed from the head? Possible that the compression might have increased enough to cause an issue.
However, sorting the battery out first is a suggestion I would agree with.
As to the oil, I would suggest changing it soon but the biggest issue with slightly dirty (ie, normal used condition - not oil which is diluted with petrol and water or has chunks of carbon in it) oil is the acids in it which will slowly attack the metals inside the engine, and it is about 2 years too late to avoid that problem.
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Thanks for your responses.
I have no idea how much they took off. I fitted the new battery today and it was much quicker I tried siphoning what i thought was half a tank of fuel, but turned out to be completely dry So i filled it with fuel, attached the new battery, and after lots of turning over something finally happened- a loud bang/pop and a bit of smoke came from what looked like the airbox and/or connections from it to the carby. So, another question. Backfire? Bad timing? I'll be honest, im not 100% sure if i put the last two HT leads in the right order... Silly of me, i know, i probably-well-SHOULD have made sure it was all corrected properly. But i think it's right Could it be the result of that? Flooding? I'm slightly confused, i probably shouldnt have tried started it with someone who knows exactly what they're doing. |
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and what would be the proper product name for 'start ha bastard'? Tried starting it again today, nothing I'm beginning to have the impression that a blown head gasket wasn't the whole story for the car stopping in the first place...
I mean, i did take it slow and make sure i got everything right when putting it together. After all, i guess i had to make double certain of everything since i'm young and inexperienced. I torqued everything down to spec, and when i finished, no bolt/part was left over (unlike other projects of mine )
Not only this, there was a guy on youtube who did exactly the same thing as me, and i basically watched his videos all the time to make sure i was on the right track. And yes, his car did end up starting  |
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Old Thread Alert!
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