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Cracking, thank you. I only put the tv on to watch Mrs Brown's Boys* but i'll have a gander at them.
Last i saw of Fergal Sharkey was solo his stuff in the 80's ish. Did he go weird?
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I never used to listen to The Skids for some reason 
Stiff Little Fingers have a massive fan base still.
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Watched a bit of it, drags on too long waiting for their big hits to start playing went upstairs on Youtube 
For me I'm a bit divided with punk
Stranglers
The Skids
Undertones
The Members
The Adverts
Buzzcocks
Anti Nowhere League
The Exploited
Sex Pistols
Discharge
Peter and the Test Tube Babies
Dead Kennedys
Black Flag
Sort of one extreme of artistic rebellion versus loud thrashing and screaming tough call for which I prefer  .
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| doggone wrote: | What stands out in the Punk Brittania programe is the huge explosion in young bands getting exposure and having great originality and enthusiasm - performing songs they composed themselves.
A sorry indictment of the music industry today. |
I can see this too, I grew up in the late eighties, early nineties. Had a healthy dose of the Floyd, Led Zep, The Pistols, Souxise and the Banshees etc as my two older brothers were really into their music. I ended up getting into a fairly eclectic mix of rock, heavy metal, punk and rave. I can relate to the Pistols, ELO, Floyd, Thin Lizzy, PWEI and The Prodigy.
I thought mainstream music was manufactured shite THEN, 20 years later I find myself looking back and thinking at least most of them (the SHITE 20 years ago) could actually play the fucking instruments they mimed to in the videos....
EDIT remembered more bands...
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Whilst I'm a massive fan of Joy Division, I would never describe them as 'punk'.
Equally, I wouldn't stick the Undertones in with Punk, they were, IMHO, more 'New Wave' than 'Punk'.
Not that it really matters....
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| doggone wrote: | Good to see rather forgotten bands like Xrray spex and siouxsie again.
These days punk is too often portrayed as Sex pistols and The clash, but there was so much more going on at the time which influenced and enabled the 80s styles like metal, goth and electro-pop. |
The problem with the media portrayal of punk is it starts in 76 and pretty much ends by 79, and only covers the UK bands, with a likely mention of the Ramones and maybe some US "New Wave" stuff. (If you were really lucky it might mention the Dead Boys, definitely no Avengers or anything of that ilk, because Dangerhouse etc weren't a major label).
Punk then became "dead" and lost fashion so went underground. There was a thriving anarcho scene (Crass and it's myriad of follower bands), a street punk/Oi scene (Rejects, Upstarts, later Blitz, Business, 4 skins etc) and other stuff like Theatre of Hate, Killing Joke, UK Decay that weren't loutish aggressive, but would never get in the charts.
The scene wasn't as splintered. Punks went to gigs and got a mish mash of whatever bands were gigging, so you got to see a variety of bands and sounds. Punks went to skinhead gigs and vice versa. The "82" punk scene was definitely more "street" and the bands were more noisy (Discharge, Disorder etc) and the US scene was starting to filter through. After these noisier bands toured Italy, Scandinavia etc the sound spread and morphed, and fed back to the UK scene. So the sound got more aggressive and gruff and then started getting faster. This worldwide feedback loop helped spawn stuff like Napalm Death, Carcass etc, via Siege, Larm and fast metal.
MRR was the punk bible, to find out what was happening in the Dutch, Italian, Swedish or Brazilian scene often via months of lag, since everything was at a snail mail pace. You didn't just download the latest release of any band 5 minutes after it was recorded and mixed, you had to first find the fucking killer bands and their obscure demos and self produced 7"s. Most exposure to obscure shit was by swapping tapes with people or writing to punks and bands abroad and doing the same.
There was no radio airplay. The US had college stations. We had fuck all. If you religiously listened to John Peel you might get one DYS, Jerrys Kids or Deep Wound track in a blue moon, interspersed with mounds of boring 2mph Reggae, Bundu Boys or Smiths. And Peel only played what he thought was interesting, mostly of the US scene. There was no Larm 2 second songs (Yes, that's where ND, Sore Throat et al nicked the idea from) or 40 second 1,000mph walls of noise or someone sounding like they were growling like a dog or being sick with a wall of feedback. We woz deprived 
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| mistergixer wrote: |
Equally, I wouldn't stick the Undertones in with Punk, they were, IMHO, more 'New Wave' than 'Punk'.
Not that it really matters.... |
I don't think the phrase "New Wave" was even thought up until about 5 years after the Undertones had become popular.
The idea of what "Punk Rock" is now is different to back then. Punk then to me was anyone that spoke their mind, had attitude and didn't tow the "corporate music" line.
Most of these bands sprang out of the Punk Rock movement and would never have made it without it.
There's "Punk" and there's "Punk Rock".
Punk Rock was also mainly responsible for introducing the masses to Reggae and there were some great British Bands about at the time. The Beat were one of my favourite Live bands and I just caught the back end of the Coventry "Two-Tone" scene with bands like The Specials, The Selector etc, etc. In Birmingham, UB40 were massive, mainly because some people felt they could be a fan of this Reggae music as opposed to others as they had white performers 
At the time Punk Rock arrived I was a bit spoilt by the type/quality of music I was listening to before punk - Pink Floyd, Yes, Steve Hillage, etc, etc so I never really got into any of the Punk Rockers that couldn't carry a tune.
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