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fatpies
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: How long to wait to be paid Reply with quote

I do cover work, sometimes working in universities.

I worked for a certain Manchester based university in July last year they paid me end of Sept, they are known to be slow.

I did some work for them in November and still haven't been paid, it is always promised to be processed with the next payroll. I call them about it now and again.


So what would you do now? because I don't want to burn bridges by going all legal with them as it is well paid (eventually when I get paid) and I suppose if I did go the legal route it would cost me money and any future work with them.

But 100+ days to be paid feels a long long time..
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What terms did you give them by invoice?
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile and say "I'm sure you understand that it's nothing personal," as you file your statutory demand.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Send weekly invoices, detailing the amount of interest accrued on the unpaid invoice.

https://www.gov.uk/late-commercial-payments-interest-debt-recovery/charging-interest-commercial-debt

They'll quickly pay up when they realise they are paying interest
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unreasonable to have to wait more than 28 days unless there's some special circumstances or agreed beforehand.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just ring up the accounts department and tell them politely that you need paying now please.

A week later, if you'd not received anything, send in a paper invoice.

Then phone and check they received said invoice. Then ask then, when will it be paid?

If after that you receive nothing, then I would send a letter stating if they don't pay within xx time, then you will have to charge them interest on the money owed.

In the future, when they ask you for more work, ask them then when you will be paid, because last time it was xx months, and that was unacceptable. They should respect this. Then get a contract drawn up that ensures you will be paid within a month of doing the work. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine your funds are at zero and all the money you own in the world is still in their hands. You'd be chasing them up for it then! That's the attitude I'd take anyway. It's not like they're some small firm who are putting it off because they don't have the money.

I'd probably call them every day, or maybe even more than once a day, 'just to chase up and make sure it's being done'.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're been far too patient with them. I would be calling them on a daily basis not now and again!
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're been far too patient with them. I would be calling them on a daily basis not now and again!
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twice.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should they not have to pay interest too?
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Universities are absurdly slow for paying. They just are.

It took four months for me to get some overtime paid out, and my workplace has managed to really piss off one of the more important suppliers that I have to interact with by making payments so late that the supplier thought they'd cancelled the purchase. As such, They're now making me wait a month before they deliver a piece of equipment that I'm getting massive pressure from management to install and set up ASAP.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: How long to wait to be paid Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
I did some work for them in November and still haven't been paid, it is always promised to be processed with the next payroll. I call them about it now and again.


You do know that your payment will have nothing to do with payroll, surely?

Get onto the AP dept, find the bod who deals with your account, talk to them directly, and then their boss.

Unfortunately you will not be a key supplier, so will unfortunately be down the bottom of the list.

Don't do what one of our contractors did once, which was to ring the VP of shared services, and demand she be paid her £11k for last month's work (yes one month), IMMEDIATELY. He didn't want to piss her off too much, so asked which invoice was outstanding.

"Oh, I don't know that, I'm in my home in France on holiday."

Oddly enough, she didn't get her money very quickly.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 03 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned above, it's the AP department managing cash by dicking you and other small suppliers around. The people hiring you are largely unrelated to the people paying you. Entirely different departments.
Most large organisations make weekly payment runs at a minimum. Sell the AP department a sob story - my overdraft is costing me a fortune, I really need to pay for my kids glasses this month etc etc. Speak to the department signing off your employment and use it as leverage to agree interest on overdue payments, or to just factor in a higher rate, cos the AP won't pay the interest element anyway!
Most large organisations have a published payment policy. What is theirs? I'm guessing they're not complying.
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fatpies
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PostPosted: 02:10 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: How long to wait to be paid Reply with quote

D O G wrote:


You do know that your payment will have nothing to do with payroll, surely?


They changed the system mid 2013 before it was send them an invoice to AP, but all contractors are put onto payroll as policy.

Something to do with tax dodging.

nowhere.elysium wrote:
Universities are absurdly slow for paying. They just are.


Sigh...
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: How long to wait to be paid Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
D O G wrote:


You do know that your payment will have nothing to do with payroll, surely?


They changed the system mid 2013 before it was send them an invoice to AP, but all contractors are put onto payroll as policy.

Something to do with tax dodging.

nowhere.elysium wrote:
Universities are absurdly slow for paying. They just are.


Sigh...


This all sounds normal for our uni. Slow to pay, contractors setup as staff (causes me problems in the long run). My Dad contracts for Scarborough and they hadn't paid him last I heard, again from work last year.

It's wrong but it's the norm.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 17 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after 181 days, I finally got paid.... Surprised

I think I'm going to have to start charging them in advance.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 17 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least invoice them for the interest on this payment before you do anything else for them.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 17 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
Well after 181 days, I finally got paid.... Surprised

I think I'm going to have to start charging them in advance.


Thats ridiculous
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