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PostPosted: 11:45 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: How much is this bike worth? Reply with quote

Specifically how much is it worth, not how much you would be willing to pay for it Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 11:49 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for a 1990 bike that minimal parts are standard...

I know you want its actual worth, but for me, for a road bike its too much as it is, imagine declaring all of that. Laughing

It probably is worth a fair bit, not far off its current price, but as a collectors item, I think the mods have killed that value, so now its mainly race value.

That is all my opinion though.. someone can quite happily correct me.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of perceived value? Less than the sweat from my arsecrack.

In terms of technical value, probably around £1200-1500. I wouldn't pay more than that for a twenty-year-old 400, even if it was in sterling condition, unless it was a NOS discovery, or something.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not worth a fraction of what he has spent.
At the end of the day its a tarted up old 400. Yes, it looks nice and i'm sure is fun to ride.

I guess i could see why someone would buy it for 2k, but not for any more.
If the bloke wants his 9k back then he is best off breaking it (and even then not see much)
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prices, second hand, for a, relatively, standard example vary between 1k & 4k.
For someone who's interested in that sort of bike, it's got all the bits they'd be wanting to add to it.
IMO it's worth about 4 - 5k, if the engines good!
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
Prices, second hand, for a, relatively, standard example vary between 1k & 4k.
For someone who's interested in that sort of bike, it's got all the bits they'd be wanting to add to it.
IMO it's worth about 4 - 5k, if the engines good!


Thank you for actually answering the question Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So let me get this straight - a 20 year old bike that's got nearly 30k on the clocks, and a ton of bolt-on crap is actually likely to be sold for that much money? Jesus. I ought to get an old VFR, attach magnets, and ride it through Halford's chav aisle.

Are we completely overlooking the fact that a) it's modelled on a bike that's from a completely different design era to the bike it's been built upon, and b) it's been used as a trackslag? He can drop as much as he wants on making it pretty on the outside, but I wouldn't give him tuppence unless he could prove that the engine's been taken care of too.

It's a triumph of style over substance, and I don't really rate the style, in truth. Making a 400cc V4 look like a 990cc V5 just says that the guy's into looks more than anything. What's wrong with just having a 400 that looks like a 400, as opposed to dressing it up to look like a race bike?

I still stand by my statement that it's not worth anywhere near 4-5k. Sorry Sid, I just disagree with you completely there, and until I see some proof that there's been serious engine work done to it, I'll continue to disagree with you. A couple of plug-in modules does not a tuned engine make.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

He didnt pay £200 for the forks. I sold them to him.

As for the bike, in parts I imagine its worth 5-6K. As a whole, 2k tops.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£2000 in my eye's it done a fair amount of track day mile's as well, most prob's been abused all of it's life, i could imagine it's had £5 worth of part's on it, it's worth what someone want's to pay for it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh its Maidstone too.

That won't be around for long. *Rings Pikey Shaun*
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a 30k mile bike which has spent the last 2k being ragged around a track. No chance it's worth much more than 2k. A tidy 200? 600 could be had for that and would rape it round a track.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
Suntan Sid wrote:
Prices, second hand, for a, relatively, standard example vary between 1k & 4k.
For someone who's interested in that sort of bike, it's got all the bits they'd be wanting to add to it.
IMO it's worth about 4 - 5k, if the engines good!


Thank you for actually answering the question Thumbs Up


As did all the previous posters... Didn't they?
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
He didnt pay £200 for the forks. I sold them to him.



Were they rebuilt when you sold them? If not he may have added the cost of the rebuild on?
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

beatnck2 wrote:
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Thank you for actually answering the question Thumbs Up


As did all the previous posters... Didn't they?


Actually they didnt Confused


The people who are saying its worth between £1000-£2000, how did you come to that conclusion? You would be lucky to find a half decent standard nc30 for that price. It HAS to be worth more with the modifications that have been made to it although I appreciate it is not worth anywhere near what he has spent on it.

As for the engine, it could be fecked however I would bet that someone who spent has spent as much money as this guy appears to have, would be looking after the engine. Also the mileage is pretty low for an nc30.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
The people who are saying its worth between £1000-£2000, how did you come to that conclusion?

By looking.

I wouldn't even consider an ex-track bike, purely because they require an extra level of upkeep that throwing high-priced accessories at it doesn't cover. You have no idea as to whether the guy's been on top of servicing or not - he only talks about trick bits and cosmetics, not actual mechanical concerns.

Unless it's a classic, I wouldn't want to pay more than a grand and a half for a bike of that age, regardless of model.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
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The people who are saying its worth between £1000-£2000, how did you come to that conclusion?

By looking.

I wouldn't even consider an ex-track bike


Most NC30's have been round the track anyway. I just cant see how a standard NC30 is worth the same as 1 which has had 9k thrown at it. This is my opinion anyway.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:


Most NC30's have been round the track anyway. I just cant see how a standard NC30 is worth the same as 1 which has had 9k thrown at it. This is my opinion anyway.


I suppose it's not bad looking, but I'm not sure about the bodywork and I can't stand the paint job, that radiator looks like it was knocked up in a shed, I don't need a quickshift and you wouldn't catch me spending North of 300 quid, just for some paddock stands.

So there's over 3 grand right there, that ain't worth Jack to me.

Plus, I don't know how good his workmanship is, so I would want to take it apart and check it over, before I risk my neck on a track with it; while I'm doing that, I might find some other stuff I don't like, or maybe I can get a better part, so that was dead money to me as well.

And that's why you don't get your money back on mods and why modded bikes aren't worth any more than standard ones.

Customising is always a total lottery, because to get anything back, it requires you find the other person on the planet that likes what you've done and also happens to be in a position to buy, at the exact moment you're selling.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

because modifications makes a bike niche, I want an unfettled one, so I can modify it.

My questions will be why?

It's a pretty cool bike tbh, I like it. BUT, not what I would be after, when buying a VFR400, if I was after a VFR400, I would want one that looked like it.

The guy only paid £1500 for the bike, and won't likely get much more than that.

Looking through his parts he has listed, there are not many performance modifications on there, as previously said, he has bolted aftermarket shiney bits on, it is no more than a VFR400 standard, in a fancy dress.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft wrote:
it requires you find the other person on the planet that likes what you've done and also happens to be in a position to buy, at the exact moment you're selling.


But lets be honest, anybody interested in modifications and this kind of work, will be the kind of person wanting to do it themselves, and not buy it ready done.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
Shaft wrote:
it requires you find the other person on the planet that likes what you've done and also happens to be in a position to buy, at the exact moment you're selling.


But lets be honest, anybody interested in modifications and this kind of work, will be the kind of person wanting to do it themselves, and not buy it ready done.


Some do, some don't.

I've found it's easier to sell a modded bike than a car, but you're right, a lot of people get the buzz out of the build, then lose interest and move on.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look through his feedback,

Samco hose kit he lists at £94
NC30 Samco Hose Kit (#270716486908) £60.00

VFR Brake discs he says are £170
Honda NC30 VFR 400 Brake Discs (#270572530728) £30.00

ZXR front forks? £200
Honda NC30 Front Forks (#270576639286) £100.00

Brake Calipers £120?
Honda NC30 VFR 400 Brake callipers (#270576638746) £51.10

Fairings, £875?
Honda VFR400 NC30 Fairings & Seat Unit (#270398291723) £381.00



How much is it worth to you now Shereen, from a dodgy seller?
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I looked at Autotrader.

There is one VFR priced a couple of hundred quid more than this one, but I'm not sure of the model so I ignored it:-

Here

The lowest was £999

The bike in question has had a fair wedge thrown at it, all we have to go on is the description in the ad. Assuming you don't throw that much money at an old nail, and take the seller at his word, (bearing in mind none of us have seen the bike in the flesh), I think it would be reasonable to expect the motor not to be garbage.
Overall, it can't be a total basket case as it does have a daytime MOT.
I've never done a track day, but if I did, I'd make sure the bike was mechanically the best I could make it.

The dash, quickshift, exhausts, shock, radiator and tyre warmers come to just over 3k, according to the seller, if they're in good nick you could sell them on at 30% of the new price, easily.

If all the goodies, he's added, improve the bike, surely they must add value.
For someone who wants that sort of bike, all the ball ache of sorting it has already been done.

Engines can be rebuilt, if it's not up to scratch you knock off the required £'s, which I mentioned originally.

As with anything, it is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Bidding is already over 2k!

If you bought it for 4k, used it for a year, then broke it I don't think you'd lose any money, infact I think you'd make a profit.

You shouldn't forget that, even in these austere times, there are people who just have "loadsamoney" to throw away, on mere whimsies! Let's face it he's spent over 1700 on the fairings and paint for a track bike FFS! Shocked
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