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Zombeh
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Tricky Manual Handling Question Reply with quote

So, my house has a small patio area that is accessed solely by a narrow alley. This is the only place that I can work on my bike at leisure at the moment so the question is - how do I get it there?

I think that the only way that it'll fit is if I manually handle it on to its rear wheel so that it can be fit down the alley and through the narrow doorway. I've never tried anything like this before so would appreciate any tips if you think that it's possible. I can get friends to help, so no worries there. Bike is a CB500 so medium weight.

If y'all are confused the I could draw a diagram.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possible? Maybe.
Advisable? Hell no.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given enough hands anything is possible.

I woke up with my TL in my bedroom after 6 mates carried up stairs while i was asleep.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Re: Tricky Manual Handling Question Reply with quote

Zombeh wrote:
If y'all are confused the I could draw a diagram.


If its really so narrow you will have to have it on one wheel, there is going to be a limit to how many people can get their hands on it at a time.

Please draw a diagram. I like diagrams. Very Happy

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PostPosted: 13:27 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paint diagram is needed Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would popping it onto something like a skateboard help?

Without knowing the actual issue hard to tell.
I'm assuming there'll be some sort of tight turn to be negotiated at end of the alley?

As said a paint diagram meeting the acceptable BCF standards is required (i.e. what 5 year old drew that)
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
Possible? Maybe.
Advisable? Hell no.

Undoubtedly.
shereen wrote:
Paint diagram is needed Thumbs Up

Not paint, sorreh chap.
https://i.imgur.com/PK6pJ.jpg
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If on my own i would sit on the bike and paddle up the lane till just past the gate. Slide of the back of the bike and bounce the back end round and in. May need two are three bounces. You will have it down to a T in no time.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

From that a skateboard may or may not help.
I'd wheel it past the gate and then reverse it in. Mirrors off of course.
Someone at the bars and one or two people at the back to lift and bump it round may help.

That's just my thoughts anyhow.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
Given enough hands anything is possible.

I woke up with my TL in my bedroom after 6 mates carried up stairs while i was asleep.


That's legendary!

Please tell me you have a picture!
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's an easy way of doing that. You can get those weird wheel skate things - they're pretty much just a plastic square with four big ball bearings in them. Bung it under the back wheel to turn it so t'll go down the side passage, overshoot the door a bit, then put it under the front wheel so you can lift the tail into the enclosed patio bit, without needing epic manhandling skills.

Lifting the bike on to the back wheel is asking for trouble.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
There's an easy way of doing that. You can get those weird wheel skate things - they're pretty much just a plastic square with four big ball bearings in them. Bung it under the back wheel to turn it so t'll go down the side passage, overshoot the door a bit, then put it under the front wheel so you can lift the tail into the enclosed patio bit, without needing epic manhandling skills.

Lifting the bike on to the back wheel is asking for trouble.


This, or get a bigger gate.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be having a look for the skate things then - does anyone know what their proper name is?

I'll also be investing in a good pair of secateurs and loppers 'cause some pillock has let the bushes on one side of the alley grow to a silly length. I cant actually paddle my bike very far down the alley at the moment.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a good way to maneuver a bike down a narrow passage is to push it backwards standing directly in front of the front wheel and holiding the handlebars.

It is suprisingly stable, maneuverable and also lets you see where you are going.

Much better than sitting on an paddling it backwards.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dismantle it completely then re-assemble it once inside the gate. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you not unscrew a fence panel on the patio to get it in?
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
Could you not unscrew a fence panel on the patio to get it in?


Solid walls all round, sadly.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zombeh wrote:
nowhere.elysium wrote:
Possible? Maybe.
Advisable? Hell no.

Undoubtedly.
shereen wrote:
Paint diagram is needed Thumbs Up

Not paint, sorreh chap.
https://i.imgur.com/PK6pJ.jpg

FFS...!

That's a no brainer that puzzle.

It's obviously a case of, 'A turn of a million Cuts' once you get to that dopey gate.

Have you though about whipping the gate off/ripping the fence down?
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should clarify - the 'gate' is the width of a kitchen backdoor - because it IS a house backdoor (don't ask). The alley is an arm-span width, max. Hence my reckoning that standing the bike up as the only way that it'll fit through the gate. I never said it was an easy problem... yes giving up is the default option sadly. Or living in a house that isn't so shit etc etc
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be a zillion bounces thing as above. My bike used to go in a 'shed under the flats i was in when i lived in Southampton. House door opening onto a doorwidth brick corridor down to another door at right angles off the passge. The 'shed' was just long enough to put the bike in diagonally with the wheel turned and the door pushed hard to shut it Laughing

If it's a narrow space and you are on your own you don't have to worry about dropping the bike as it's propped in every direction and has no room to fall anywhere anyway. You can just wiggle and bounce it till it's in

The other option is a path of newspaper through the house and wheel the bike through from the front to the back?

Or is there a room in the house spare for a bit of lino to go down and the bike to live indoors for a bit while you're working on it?
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Dismantle it completely then re-assemble it once inside the gate. Mr. Green


Lol, reminds me of this guy
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zombeh wrote:
I'll be having a look for the skate things then - does anyone know what their proper name is?


One of them is called a Tail Swinger

https://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo/548818/Workshop/Bike-Movers/Tail-Swinger/Tail-Swinger

https://www.cyoma.com/

There are probably others
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PostPosted: 04:50 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zombeh wrote:
I should clarify - the 'gate' is the width of a kitchen backdoor - because it IS a house backdoor (don't ask). The alley is an arm-span width, max. Hence my reckoning that standing the bike up as the only way that it'll fit through the gate. I never said it was an easy problem... yes giving up is the default option sadly. Or living in a house that isn't so shit etc etc


Hold on a God Damned minute mate...

Are you now telling us that the diagram is NOT to scale???

Best idea is:
1) B&Q, Chain/Stihl Saw.
2) Two hours labour.
3) Sorted.
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PostPosted: 06:04 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures of the alley way, pictures of the far side wall, looking towards the gate. Then we can get a decent idea of what can be done.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Through the house it is.
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