Knock knock. Who's there? Jehovah's witness

[J.M.]

Anybody else enjoy arguing with them when they come to the door?

I've just had some come around again trying to get me to believe. My personal favourites from the conversation were:

When she said how we're too voilent with all the wars and such. I don't like the wars but I digress. I then went to ask why God made us such a voilent race then? She said that he didn't, we made ourselves this way. My reply was that if he created us all and made us from scratch and wrote scriptings knowing that would happen to the current day then he knew we would be so voilent.

When she said how god gave us free will to act how we like, but we've not been acting how he wanted. My reply was then "Well that's not really free will then. If it's free will we can't have been acting wrong. That's what free will is all about. If there's a set way we have to act, it isn't free will."

That left them stumped for words really until she compared it to the automotive laws where you stop at a red light because you'll get hit by a car if you don't. I didn't care to counteract that argument because she then went on about how God has designed the Universe so perfectly.

I took pride in telling her that actually 98% of the Universe would kill her instantly and even 99% of the species that have ever existed on this planet are extinct. (Thanks to the person that posted the Universe trying to kill us video! )

She tried to counteract it by saying how if we were a tiny bit closer to the sun or a tiny bit further away from the sun, we would all die. I told her she was wrong and that actually we would have evolved to suit the environment. She called it "adaption", I told her he was wrong and it was as I said, evolution.

Also how God was going to overthrow all of the governments and take control himself. I told them I can't believe that, we haven't heard from him in the past few thousand years. She replied how the scriptings dictate the future. I argued back that you can't have a government ran by somebody who doesn't talk to us.

The final point that I'll mention is when they said that if somebody was saying bad things about me and accusing me for things I haven't done, I would want to defend my name like God is doing. I simply replied "Well, yeah, but I wouldn't expect them to believe I existed if I never showed my face."

Anybody else enjoy arguing with them?

Any good points to make if they come back again?
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[Alpha-9]

Just to spell violent correctly, that's all.
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Fzr-600 1999

[Ayrton]

I just let them get on with believing whatever crap they want. I just wish they would respect other peoples beliefs and stop knocking doors trying to convert people to get their church money...

[J.M.]

[bEN_]

use these in arguments

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[Alpha-9]

[J.M.]

[angryjonny]

[D O G]

I have much better things to do with my time than argue with them. Like sitting on the sofa watching TV.

[yaigi]

I have a friend whose parents used to drag her round from door to door as a kid doing the whole Jehovahs Witness thing. She had ALL kinds thrown at her, was chased away, screamed at, had dogs set on them, all kinds. People winding them up is probably quite tame, and shes all for people doing that cos she has done a complete U-turn on the religion now - did as soon as she was old enough to realise for herself it was all a load of poppycock.

I've not had the pleasure of them knocking on my door yet, can't wait til they do...
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[P.addy]

So tempted to keep a Hail Satan or Jesus is a C**t tshirt by the door for such occasions.

But, I'm not that harsh. I'll just pass wind at the door whilst listening.

[ride_to_die]

I had a similar experience to Angryjonny. I argued with one guy for ages, he then came calling on a regular basis trying to convert me. On the final occasion he called, he was accompanied by a stunning brunette. I blatantly stared at her breasts throughout the conversation. They've never been back.
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[neatbik]

What i find far more annoying are the charity collectors that litter the high street and try to prise your bank details from you.

I swear i'm going to resort to violence against them soon..

[yaigi]

[neatbik]

I have in the past told them i already donate, but then i thought 'why should i have to lie?

So now i tell them i'm not interested and keep walking. I can usually stop them by giving them the look. Usually works...
But i had one the other day who tried to follow me. I told him that if he didn't stop, turnaround and fuck off i would belt him one.

If i want to give to a charity i will do it in a way of my own choosing, i'm far to savvy to be brainwashed by some pompous little twat with a high vis and a clipboard.

Rant over, now i feel better.

[angryjonny]

[angryjonny]

[tbourner]

I usually argue with chuggers about why their charity is wrong and I disagree with what they're fighting for.

As for witnesses, haven't had any for a while, last lot were shit-scared of our dogs who were clambering to get over the baby gate so they didn't stay any longer than to give me a leaflet!
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[J.M.]

[chris-red]

[Alpha-9]

Yep, the chuggers I tell to their face NOPE, DONT CARE ABOUT DYING CHILDREN THANKS

And religion fags in town, walk by them shouting god is a lie

Why is it religious fags are allowed to picket and sing god shit and get in the way but if I did the same thing for atheism i'd be told to move along or arrested for inciting religious hatred or some shit.

Fuck 'em, they all only want your money anyway, all of them. It's not about anything else but wages + profit.
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Fzr-600 1999

[Knightsy]

Oddly enough I'd love them to come over to my place more often!
The one time that they visited me they were Christian, asking for me to sign some sort of petition to remove the "myth of evolution" from schools... I politely allowed the middle aged chap to finish, after which I've told him that I believe in said theory and that I'm a pragmatic atheist...

He never came back, never called, never sent roses...
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[Rogerborg]

I'm currently going with the say absolutely nothing approach to answering the door. It requires less effort on my part and it makes their disengagement comically awkward.

Although kudos to one cheap-suited namebadge where the entire conversation went "Hello-sir-sorry-to-bother-you-I-represent-Virgin-Media-and-we're-in-the-area-ah-I-can-see-you're-not-interested-thank-you-for-your-time" and he was off, barely breaking his stride. Must get his knockbacks done in record time.
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[nowhere.elysium]

You're all amateurs. If a JW knocks at the door, you needn't say anything. Remain silent, stare at their left ear intently, and occasionally lick your lips.

They will leave, I assure you.
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[Polarbear]

I dislike JW's with an intesity that can only be equalled by my dislike of Luton town fc. I've found that argueing with them is just They are impervious to anything you say.

I have had some really good discussions/arguements with Mormons though.
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