Judge says burglars are courageous, PM says they are cowards

map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

...discuss.

The news story is here.

duhawkz · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Karma :

burglars should be skinned alive and rolled in salt and vinegar crisps.

/tread end
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Im-a-Ridah · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Karma :

Cameron says he has been burgled twice, so fair enough Smile

map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

Apart from the obvious I think this indicates how out of touch these Judges are with what must be the vast majority of public opinion.

Other barristers are now defending the Judge saying his comments have been taken out of context. Having just heard them on the radio, no they haven't!.

The trouble is these Judges have a job for life without, as far as I can tell, any sanity MOT competence checks along the way.

For me it really does make me depressed and suspicious about the legal system. I am loosing trust in the system. It's integrity is compromised with stories like this. As I have said before it does not appear to have any direct link to justice.

Mad

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angryjonny · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Karma :

I suppose it depends what he meant by "courageous". I've described others' fashion-sense as "brave" in the past. It wasn't meant as a complement.

toshpot · Scooby Slapper Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Karma :

I'd guess the couragous comment was to do with fighting drug addiction..cus y'know, it wasn't their choice to start abusing drugs or anything.

the burglary is just a side product of that courageous fight and all.

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I haven't read the article, but have been victim to these arseholes and their 'courage' before :/
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Im-a-Ridah · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Karma :

The context seems quite clear to me

'You're brave to break into someones home. I wouldn't be brave enough to do that myself.'

He doesn't seem to imply that it is acceptable nor justified though.

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carlosthejack... · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Karma :

Burglars are the lowest of the low.
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D O G · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Karma :

It's only couragous if you are afraid of the consequences.

A judge would be, but the offender in this case woudl most likely not be.

Moxey · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 May 2011 Karma :

The attitude that Judge seems to be showcasing is quite prevalent in the criminological community around Teesside/Cleveland which favours rehabilitation and probation over prison sentences, actually that attitude seems to be spreading to a national level what with massive prison overcrowding and the incredible expense of keeping a prisoner (£40-45k annual).

I agree with his statement in regards to prison but his approach to the particular case seems to be lacking in the punitive side, iron fist in a velvet glove and all that this is a repeat offender who seems he may be flaunting the chance at rehabilitation and a second chance so should receive a more severe sentence.

Judge also needs to learn difference between stupidity and bravery.
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God forbid that any criminal could ever possibly be courageous. Rolling Eyes

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Benno · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 May 2012 Karma :

I'm not agreeing with what you all seem to think the judge was saying, but analyse his words from this perspective;

Doing something such as burgling a house involves facing an element of risk - sometimes huge risk, as homeowners have been known to use violence to defend their homes. Therefore it does take a certain amount of what we have defined as 'courage' to invade someone's home. This in no way justifies the act, in fact it makes it even more stupid - you are prepared to face consequences to your life and physical well-being and at the same time you are breaking the law. Twice as dumb.
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covent.gardens · World Clap Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Karma :

Prisons would work better if they weren't nice places to be, liberals have turned them into holiday camps then say they don't work because crims reoffend. Little more than bread & water with no heating and we'd see what happens to reoffending rates then... Still can't believe how often BBC reports about poor prison conditions, as if us law abiding people give a fuck? Most people would like to see conditions inside get worse.