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 Posted: 11:44 - 05 Oct 2012 Post subject: Are old people obsolete? |
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Not really intended as a serious kill all the oldies thread btw...
Pre literature, and definatley pre-internet, old people were a repository of information. Going back to caveman days, if you survived to old age, chances are you had a good idea of what berries to eat, which ones to avoid, what leaves to chew when you had a headache etc etc. As such old people had value in the accumulated knowledge they could hand down to the younger members of society.
With modern literature and especially the internet, there is access to a massive repository of data much easier accessible that repeating yourself 17,000 times to your grandad trying to be understood. Old people's one redeeming value has been replaced by a system that is broader, deeper and easier than accessing that data through a person as an interface.
While plenty of old people can support themselves, and long may they do so, by the time they reach needing 24 hour care, lots of medical complication etc etc what is the point of them being alive.
In my case, I'd hope someone just puts me out of my misery if I live to be that old if I am incapable to taking myself out. My brother gives me a life expectancy of 35 so I may not even have to worry about such things! |
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i go down and see my mum and nan each week, off down shortly actually.
nan usually has some interesting tale of her younger days.
she was a commercial vehicle driver for perry's vauxhall, owned and ran a pet shop, ran a bakery, hardware store, used to bake professional cakes including making all the sugar/pastry based flowers and god only knows what else, she was an amazing painter before arthritis. and thats just off the top of my head.
always been a good, reliable source of help and information.
the stupid bitch down the road however, bragges about never working a day in her life sponging off welfare all her life and not knowing her arse from her chin. to which i really want to inform her both her arse and face have 1 thing in common, they both chat shit.
so yes, some people are fucking useless, others are still damn awesome. ____________________ BCF's biggest cunt list: Cansa, Pits, Rob |
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Just to be clear, if I ever wanted a proper top-notch, first rate job doing, whether it was tuning an engine or making some bespoke furniture etc etc. The type of person I'd seek out to do the work would be some retired (or just about to) old-school chap who'd been doing the thing all his life. They don't seem to make them like that anymore
A man like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E68dYHzYuBQ&feature=related |
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| smegballs wrote: | Just to be clear, if I ever wanted a proper top-notch, first rate job doing, whether it was tuning an engine or making some bespoke furniture etc etc. The type of person I'd seek out to do the work would be some retired (or just about to) old-school chap who'd been doing the thing all his life. They don't seem to make them like that anymore
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^^This.
I used to own a Mk2 MR2 which, like a lot of Jap imports had feck all in the way of rustproofing.
It failed an MOT because it required some welding doing to one of the sills.
I took it to a place that had been recommended to me, showed them the problem, they did the minimum required and charged me a fair few quid.
The Jappo rust-bucket then failed the next MOT on rusty sills (on the other side this time). I got given the name of a chap who was someone at the garage's Uncle's cousin's brother (or similar) who had retired from the trade but liked to keep his hand in.
I took the car to him, he looked it over, we agreed a price, and I left the car with him.
Not only did he do the welding I'd asked for, he also then rust-proofed over his work, reworked the welds the previous place had done (because he didn't think they were that good), rust-proofed those, rang me up to say he was finished and had a bit of spare time so would I like him to drop the car back in re-test?
When I picked the car back up, he made me a brew, we had a chat, I inspected his work and was thoroughly impressed. I gave him an extra £20 on top of the price we'd agreed because he'd done such a good job (which he reluctantly accepted after a bit of persuasion), and it was still £40 cheaper than the 'professionals' who'd previously done the welding for me.
What a top bloke! I've still got his number, and any future welding requirements will be going straight through to him.
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Don Eladio is dead. His capos are dead. You have no one left to fight for. Fill your pockets and leave in peace. Or fight me and die!
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I have to agree, I'm a craftsman/fitter by trade which means I can do a bit of most things, but basically a master of none.
I can burn and weld to a reasonably proficient standard, but some of the old boys who have done it for most of their lives, well I cant touch their work or standards.
That's not to say they are all equal mind
As for information, tips and tricks plus helpful shortcuts as well, you cant beat the grizzly old lads that might move slow but can still do the job faster and to a better standard then the younger lads. ____________________ Honda Varadero >> Triumph Speed Four >> Honda CBR1100xx |
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Know what I like about "old" tradesmen? they fucking clean up after themselves is what, not like the lazy useless youngsters nowadays who look at you in horror and say labourers do that shit
I work in construction and get sick of the whining from them ____________________ Do not presume that I am male.
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you are right Benno.
I sit and chuckle at the bairns on here who think anyone over 30 is past it. Boy are they in for a surprise when they get there  ____________________ Do not presume that I am male. |
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| Benno wrote: | When you reach this age, your attitude of "just put me out of my misery" will be long gone, I am quite sure. |
Maybe. I can't say for certain until I'm there obviously. Same with getting spazzed in a bike accident. Me, my dad and sister all have told the rest of the family the same thing: "If I'm majorly crippled do the decent thing and put me down".
My dad, as a 53 year old man, has said perfectly seriously, "If you ever think its time for me to go into a care/nursing home, its time for me to go".
I don't want to be a burden on others ,while I can pull my own weight and stand on my own feet alls well. Also the physical side of aging too, I don't want to have a slowly failing body. I imagine there will reach a point when I can't do XYZ that I used to be able to, and will simply have had enough. |
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| smegballs wrote: |
Maybe. I can't say for certain until I'm there obviously. Same with getting spazzed in a bike accident. Me, my dad and sister all have told the rest of the family the same thing: "If I'm majorly crippled do the decent thing and put me down".
My dad, as a 53 year old man, has said perfectly seriously, "If you ever think its time for me to go into a care/nursing home, its time for me to go".
I don't want to be a burden on others ,while I can pull my own weight and stand on my own feet alls well. Also the physical side of aging too, I don't want to have a slowly failing body. I imagine there will reach a point when I can't do XYZ that I used to be able to, and will simply have had enough. |
Proof, if proof be needed, that youth really is wasted on the young. |
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Can't say I disagree there.....
The other day I caught myself thinking:
"Well maybe if I got a job and worked real hard for 5 years saving lots of cash, I'd have a nice lump sum towards a house..."
It's started already, someone toss me a glock. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 118 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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