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 Posted: 11:33 - 27 Sep 2012 Post subject: The new KTM 1190 |
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https://www.motorcycle-usa.com/880/14343/Motorcycle-Article/2013-KTM-1190-Adventure-R-First-Look.aspx
Im of mixed opinion about it. It looks like the standard ADV has gone soft, and is no longer a serious off roader. Gone to a 19 inch front wheel, so only the R model is now worthy of attention.
I like the fact that KTM has now gone tubeless., and a 15 000 km service interval!!
The 2 in one exhaust....hmmm. There will no longer be that KTM sound. And at 518 lb it has put on weight over the 990.
the 150 HP, it will eat rear tyres and chains, and far too much power for off roading.
Cant say it is a bike I am particulraly excited about. Looks like more road biased and with all the gadgets to displace BMW.
I think I will hang on to my 990 dakar. The old 990s and 950 SE bikes will go up in value with people who want to off road tour. There is nothing on the market anymore with a true off road bias. ____________________ 2011 KTM 990 Dakar
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| G wrote: | Poor show, gone all BMW on us.
Though, 'soft' versions haven't exactly harmed them.
Single exhaust will be cheaper and easier to replace for a not silly-big version, which is a good thing to my mind.
Do like the idea of remote adjustable suspension - wonder if people'll do kits to get it on the R version now. |
My thoughts exactly. they tried to follow BMW and one up them. But they kept the R version as a carrot for the off roaders. I just dont see the need for 150 hp off road. They will have to make it very torquey. You will just spin and eat up tyres. It is a sports bike engine transplanted.
I have that ESA on my BMW. It is handly, but I only use it with a pillion. On the KTM I always forget how much preload I set and have to crank it all the way down, than crank up again.
To mee the best feature is tubeless. OK there is the risk of a sidewall damage or a smiley and sudden air loss with no field repair (unless you carry a tube). But punctures can be repaired at any petrol station or with a plug. No more carrying tyre levers, valve puller, tubes etc. I do find the standard KTM rim a bit soft, but then again I have a small ding (not visible except when balancing) on my BMW tubeless and it doesnt leak.
as it stands, I think the standard ADV is a better replacement for the GS than for the 990. The R version may replace the ADV.
But as an off roader, it is now the 690, or a new 800 KTM comes out with. ____________________ 2011 KTM 990 Dakar
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You guys sound like you know what you're talking about, which means you're probably not their new target market.
Why they didn't just call it the "R1190GS" is probably between them and their lawyers. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 Posted: 23:04 - 28 Sep 2012 Post subject: |
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1190 Super Duke soon then?  |
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I swear to fucking God allah, every new bike has the same end can - all made in china for a quid, then they all have shares in the top end aftermarket can makers, that go for a grand etc.  ____________________ Jogging on, destination living. |
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Thats still to tall for me. 89cm = just over 35inches in our money. My inside leg is only 31 inches. Fair enough the compression of my fat arse on the seat would bring it down to a more suitable level but the initial swinging the leg on I'd look like a dwarf trying to mount a shire horse.  ____________________ illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
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Pinks, i suggest you re measure inside leg, im saying you sub 30
And im even more subier. ____________________ Jogging on, destination living. |
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Your inside leg IS ?  ____________________ Jogging on, destination living. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 160 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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