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| Posted: 20:13 - 14 Sep 2012 Post subject: |
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Then where are the moderate majority telling them to shush up and grow up?
Did you not see the massive global celebrations when the Twin Towers came down? Really?
Imagine Kradmelder in a tea-towel, multiplied by a billion and a half.
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| Cheeseybeaner wrote: | I don't understand why Muslims take their ridiculous selves and 'faith' so seriously personally, don't they recognise how retarded they make themselves appear by such ridiculous acts apparently spurned by some silly youtube upload?
They clearly lack a sense of humour and why the rest of us should have to take them and their retarded idiocy so seriously is beyond me...What makes them so bloody important anyway? |
Not all Muslims are 'radicalised' 'extremists' or whatever.
However a lot live in countries which have not moved on culturally a great deal since the middle ages. Slightly backward economically, their culture is now under attack from western values. The values that have held their society together may be eroded. Maybe their countries should adopt our ways and are ready too, maybe they arent ready for teenage pregnancies and cult of the individual.
Aswell as metaphorical cultural attack, they have also been under direct military attack and the threat of military attack. We have been invading their countries and meddling in their politics for years, but now many arab states are having civil wars between those who want western values and those who want traditional values.
If you understand where they are coming from, they don't seem so crazy at all. We are the war mongers, not them. 911 was either a criminal terrorist act, or a false flag ruse to start a war. Either way, our response in invading two countries and installing people of our choosing, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, was not exactly the even handed moderation suggested by the law of moderation suggested by an eye of an eye a tooth for a tooth.
If I were Muslim, particularly if I were Arab, I don't think I would like America or Britain that much either.
Anyone got a link to the film that is provoking this trouble ?
apparently its called 'innocence of muslims'
i think this is it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTdesxykPqI&feature=related
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Laugh it up, fuzzball.
Remember, education is the vaccine against radicalism. How's that playing out for you?
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| Kradmelder wrote: | | Rogerborg wrote: | Laugh it up, fuzzball.
Remember, education is the vaccine against radicalism. How's that playing out for you? |
I got an M and a Pr Eng. and you? |
Yeah, but from a third world university, so it doesn't really count...
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What the fuck are you going on about really? What do you actually know aboout muslim culture? Im guessing shit all by these unfounded comments......  |
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Not all Muslims are 'radicalised' 'extremists' or whatever.
However a lot live in countries which have not moved on culturally a great deal since the middle ages. Slightly backward economically, their culture is now under attack from western values. The values that have held their society together may be eroded. Maybe their countries should adopt our ways and are ready too, maybe they arent ready for teenage pregnancies and cult of the individual.
Aswell as metaphorical cultural attack, they have also been under direct military attack and the threat of military attack. We have been invading their countries and meddling in their politics for years, but now many arab states are having civil wars between those who want western values and those who want traditional values.
If you understand where they are coming from, they don't seem so crazy at all. We are the war mongers, not them. 911 was either a criminal terrorist act, or a false flag ruse to start a war. Either way, our response in invading two countries and installing people of our choosing, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, was not exactly the even handed moderation suggested by the law of moderation suggested by an eye of an eye a tooth for a tooth.
If I were Muslim, particularly if I were Arab, I don't think I would like America or Britain that much either.
Anyone got a link to the film that is provoking this trouble ?
apparently its called 'innocence of muslims'
i think this is it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTdesxykPqI&feature=related |
Well attacking British, American and apparently even German (!) embassies for something which surfaced on Youtube from an obscure bunch of people in California apparently; to me seems a somewhat ridiculously misplaced reaction.
Wouldn't it make more sense to simply confront the film's makers? Its hardly a reason to launch blindingly stupid attacks on embassy officials.
In any case these people seemingly have a complete lack of perspective in their retarded lives and outlook, give me western freedom of speech over oppressive Islamic totalitarianism any day of the week...
Personally I think people have every right to ridicule the stupidity and hypocrisy of religion and its followers, its the same as any other mass ideology.
If Islamists aren't mature enough to recognise the core importance of these basic humanist values (and how critical it is to the liberal democracy we strived for) they really could learn a thing or two from the developed west. |
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| Cheeseybeaner wrote: | | colin1 wrote: |
Not all Muslims are 'radicalised' 'extremists' or whatever.
However a lot live in countries which have not moved on culturally a great deal since the middle ages. Slightly backward economically, their culture is now under attack from western values. The values that have held their society together may be eroded. Maybe their countries should adopt our ways and are ready too, maybe they arent ready for teenage pregnancies and cult of the individual.
Aswell as metaphorical cultural attack, they have also been under direct military attack and the threat of military attack. We have been invading their countries and meddling in their politics for years, but now many arab states having civil wars between those who want western values and those who want traditional values.
If you understand where they are coming from, they don't seem so crazy at all. We are the war mongers, not them. 911 was either a criminal terrorist act, or a false flag ruse to start a war. Either way, our response in invading two countries and installing people of our choosing, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, was not exactly the even handed moderation suggested by the law of moderation suggested by an eye of an eye a tooth for a tooth.
If I were Muslim, particularly if I were Arab, I don't think I would like America or Britain that much either.
Anyone got a link to the film that is provoking this trouble ?
apparently its called 'innocence of muslims'
i think this is it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTdesxykPqI&feature=related |
Well attacking British, American and apparently even German (!) embassies for something which surfaced on Youtube from an obscure bunch of people in California apparently; to me seems a somewhat ridiculously misplaced reaction.
Wouldn't it make more sense to simply confront the film's makers? Its hardly a reason to launch blindingly stupid attacks on embassy officials.
In any case these people seemingly have a complete lack of perspective in their retarded lives and outlook, give me western freedom of speech over oppressive Islamic totalitarianism any day of the week...
Personally I think people have every right to ridicule the stupidity and hypocrisy of religion and its followers, its the same as any other mass ideology.
If Islamists aren't mature enough to recognise the core importance of these basic humanist values (and how critical it is to the liberal democracy we strived for) they really could learn a thing or two from the developed west. |
Perhaps they thought about attacking the film makers then remembered how stupid the church looked after debating life of Brian with cleese and Palin on tv...
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| Kradmelder wrote: | | Rogerborg wrote: | Laugh it up, fuzzball.
Remember, education is the vaccine against radicalism. How's that playing out for you? |
I got an M and a Pr Eng. and you? |
BSc (proper) and MSc (novelty). The point is more about the chaps who stock your shelves.
But, hey, I've gargled some Mecca Cola in my time and lived off the dinar. Needs must when the Yankee-Shaitan drives.
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| Polarbear wrote: | However I am coming to despise Islam and the way it leads people like sheep. |
That's a theme common to most religions, though. They tend (at least, the monotheistic/Abrahamic ones do) to dissolve the concept of action, and replace it with 'good deeds' and 'sinful deeds' - there's no room for interpretation, or contextual analysis.
Given that these are the traits that largely separate humans from animals, it's little wonder that religion is often used as a focus for social authority; if you've got a lot of people who are willing to defer to the opinions of another, because a voice that's hard to prove the existence of told them so, then reasoning will often go straight out the window.
It's also worth remembering that Islam is still a fairly young religion, in the grand scheme of things; they'll get over the aggressive expansionist phase in a century or two, much like Christianity did before it.
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