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Posted: 12:10 - 21 Sep 2012 Post subject: Pushbike stuff at Aldi - any good? (From 27/09/12) |
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https://aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/offers_week39Thursday12.htm
I could do with - reflective waterproof jacket, maybe trousers, maybe shoes (I have mtb 'boots', but been doing a fair bit of road stuff for getting about with calorie burn) and maybe the tool kit for the bike-specific stuff.
Is it worth it, or should I be on ebay etc?
Also considering 'compression' stuff, but it seems the jury's still out on that being useful or not. |
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Posted: 13:17 - 21 Sep 2012 Post subject: |
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While they look better than the carbon-clogs a work mate used to have, I'm not sure if I'm quite ready for that level of lycra-ness!
Ta for the suggestion anyway, probably will end up with something like that in the long run - but I'll need to get appropriate pedals and cleats first anyway.
Just reading this: https://www.cyclorama.net/viewArticle.php?id=376&subjectId=9 - think I might leave the shoes for a bit and consider further. |
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I think you are referring to the bit of that article which says that the benefit of toe clips and clipon shoes doesnt increase cycling efficiency.
That is probably true for 90% of sat in the seat cycling, but there is no doubt in my mind that out of the seat sprint, benefits from being able to push round the crank on the upstroke aswell as the down stroke. So more power not more efficient.
I personally think they should make cycling shoes with flexible soles not stiff soles, as the leg and foot are designed to give out more energy by extending the foot and toes. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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Also at Lidl's too. I did look at the gloves, with a view to wearing them as driving gloves, but from the choice of colours, the bright yellow ones were the only ones in my small hand size. ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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That reads like a bit of good old 'internet bollocks' that you tend to get on any topic.
From personal experience I think proper stiff shoes & clipless pedals are the biggest £-for-speed gain you can make with a road/hybrid bike, and I was a massive sceptic before I tried them out. Being firmly attached to the drive train makes a big difference to how much power you put out, even if you do have to master the art of not falling on your arse at traffic lights.
It also feels like you're using different muscles on the 'pull' as opposed to 'push' stroke, so even when your legs are properly fucked you can get a bit more out of them this way. YMMV... ____________________ 3516 Miles, 11 Countries |
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Up to size 10. Swines
I use SPDs when cycling and wouldn't be without them (or a toe clip at the very least for those times when not wearing cleats), got the pedal set up with a standard mud cage on the one side so it can be used flat and a clip on the reverse to be kicked into when required. Don't do much serious dirt riding at the moment but I've found them to be fine with both tarmac and the short cross country/downhill sections I've been playing around on in local parkland. Bear in mind that a set of MTB shoes will generally be stiffer/heavier than road shoes by quite a margin.
When clipped in I'll be on the seat while pedalling, the whole concept is to allow you to use more muscle in the action and to avoid bad form by using your weight on the downstroke. ____________________ I'm immortal. Well, so far. |
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That reads like a bit of good old 'internet bollocks' that you tend to get on any topic.
From personal experience I think proper stiff shoes & clipless pedals are the biggest £-for-speed gain you can make with a road/hybrid bike, and I was a massive sceptic before I tried them out. Being firmly attached to the drive train makes a big difference to how much power you put out, even if you do have to master the art of not falling on your arse at traffic lights.
It also feels like you're using different muscles on the 'pull' as opposed to 'push' stroke, so even when your legs are properly fucked you can get a bit more out of them this way. YMMV... |
All of the above is true. That article is utter bollocks. |
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D O G wrote: | He'll be putting a shitload more torque through it than you or I ever could tho, without flipping over. |
Which is where the control comes in. He's not pedalling with his legs, he's pedalling by using his core muscles to connect his arms and legs together.
Watch a video, the pedalling movement comes from a horizontal wave through the centre of his abdomen, when the leg goes back, the arm on the opposite side pushes forwards, the arm on the same side pulls back, the force is balanced and in the centre of the bike. The crossbar takes a hammering.
I would also say he's pretty much constantly on the verge of flipping over. Just like WSB riders are on the verge of doing a wheelie out of every corner. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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On the subject of being clipped into the pedals..
I have used SPD's for years now, both on and off road, and would never use 'proper' pedals again.
Although, to be fair, they can be a bit of a pain in the arse in urban traffic cycling, once you get used to them and have had a few comedy 'can't get unclipped fast enough' moments (and yes, it will happen!) you learn to judge the situation in front you a bit more cleverly.
The ability to be able to pull up on the pedals as well as push down is priceless when you are are half way up that hill and your legs are screaming at you, pulling up uses totally different muscles and allows you to recover while still keeping momentum.
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I think you are referring to the bit of that article which says that the benefit of toe clips and clipon shoes doesnt increase cycling efficiency.
That is probably true for 90% of sat in the seat cycling, but there is no doubt in my mind that out of the seat sprint, benefits from being able to push round the crank on the upstroke aswell as the down stroke. So more power not more efficient.
I personally think they should make cycling shoes with flexible soles not stiff soles, as the leg and foot are designed to give out more energy by extending the foot and toes. |
I dont see Mark Cavendish using the sides of his feet on the crank.. nor anyone in tour de france, or that I know
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South Wales valleys, that's where it's at!
https://app.strava.com/rides/23480780
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So your 1st little lump is tougher than the worst climb on my whole route. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 202 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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