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mic
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: instructor for CBT didnt turn up! Reply with quote
Booked my CBT a couple of weeks ago, guy was gonna drop by my house so i could use my bike. Meant to be here an hour ago. left a message on his mobile and emailed the info@ on his site, most annoying as my CBT has run out and has left me in a pickle.

bugger.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Re: instructor for CBT didnt turn up! Reply with quote
mic wrote:
Booked my CBT a couple of weeks ago, guy was gonna drop by my house so i could use my bike. Meant to be here an hour ago. left a message on his mobile and emailed the info@ on his site, most annoying as my CBT has run out and has left me in a pickle.

bugger.


As the CBT is an all day event isn't 16:00hrs a tad late to be starting a CBT anyway? Question
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mic
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some places do a 3 hour if it's not the first time
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
mic wrote:
Some places do a 3 hour if it's not the first time


I thought the minimum had to be 5 hrs, especially as two hours have to be on the road - that leaves 3 hrs to do the other 3 or 4 elements.
Could be wrong though, and probably am.

Still a bit of an arse to have happen though Sad
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ollossm wrote:
I thought the minimum had to be 5 hrs, especially as two hours have to be on the road

My understanding (which may also be flawed) is that the on-road has to be 2+ hours, but that everything else is just "move on when instructor is satisfied".

However, 7 hours is required as a pre-requisite to obtaining a Euro-compliant bike license.

But if you've already done a 7 hour CBT once already, then you've already satisfied the Eurocrats and therefore just need to re-appease the DSAtards with a 2-and-a-bit hour refresher.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
mic wrote:
Some places do a 3 hour if it's not the first time


Impossible to do a cbt correctly in 3 hrs.

As stated above cbt requires a minimum 2 hr roadride and it is not possible to complete Elements A, B, C and D in 1 hr. any atb doing so is breaking the law and short changing YOU because you aren't getting the training you are paying for.

Report them now cbt@dsa.gsi.gov.uk
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Daytona Paul wrote:
mic wrote:
Some places do a 3 hour if it's not the first time


Impossible to do a cbt correctly in 3 hrs.

As stated above cbt requires a minimum 2 hr roadride and it is not possible to complete Elements A, B, C and D in 1 hr. any atb doing so is breaking the law and short changing YOU because you aren't getting the training you are paying for.

Report them now cbt@dsa.gsi.gov.uk


but hes already done the training so why waist the time doing it again to satisfy some fuckwit gov tard when all you want to do is renew your cert Wink
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
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but hes already done the training so why waist the time doing it again to satisfy some fuckwit gov tard when all you want to do is renew your cert Wink


To avoid having to redo cbt all the op has to do is prove he is capable and pass the test!

Some of the worst riders I have trained have been returning cbt's Sad
Lack of observations, using brakes incorrectly, speeding, the list goes on.
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Lord Percy
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
What's this about European rulings? If I really wanted to... could I go mad and travel the whole EU with just my CBT?

I noticed my insurance covers me for the whole eurozone too. It seemed to be quite largely noted, as if to say, "this policy complies with some kind of new scheme that SA1988 isn't aware of that means he can actually consider a road trip into europe on his 125 if he really wants to."

Can I do hit on a CBT?! I'm in the process of getting the full licence, but I'd like to speculate on this anyway, just for the sake of knowing.

Sorry to hijack the thread. Hopefully a single yes or no answer will have this over with!
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Daytona Paul wrote:


Some of the worst riders I have trained have been returning cbt's Sad
Lack of observations, using brakes incorrectly, speeding, the list goes on.


and passing your test magically ensures you always do observations? You always brake correctly? You never speed?
Sorry the comment just seemed too generic / anti returning CBT's

All a test shows is you can get it right on the day in front of an examiner - it doesn't automatically make someone a better rider.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
sa1988 wrote:
What's this about European rulings? If I really wanted to... could I go mad and travel the whole EU with just my CBT?

Nope, because you don't have any sort of category A license. SoLo L riding on provisional entitlement seems to be a UK quirk.

I can't imagine it'll last indefinitely. It's not even considered in the Euro directives, and sooner or later someone - or their next of kin - is going to sue the Crown for allowing them come a cropper by riding around without a proper license.
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Lord Percy
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:

Nope, because you don't have any sort of category A license. SoLo L riding on provisional entitlement seems to be a UK quirk.

I can't imagine it'll last indefinitely. It's not even considered in the Euro directives, and sooner or later someone - or their next of kin - is going to sue the Crown for allowing them come a cropper by riding around without a proper license.


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PostPosted: 22:18 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ollossm wrote:
Daytona Paul wrote:


Some of the worst riders I have trained have been returning cbt's Sad
Lack of observations, using brakes incorrectly, speeding, the list goes on.


and passing your test magically ensures you always do observations? You always brake correctly? You never speed?
Sorry the comment just seemed too generic / anti returning CBT's

All a test shows is you can get it right on the day in front of an examiner - it doesn't automatically make someone a better rider.


I am certainly not anti returning cbt'ers Wink most of them make for any easy life for instructors. I was just making a point.

As Rogerborg said, we appear to be the only country in Europe (the world?) that allow unsupervised learners and the loophole could be closed at any time.

CBT was originally intended to be the first step towards a full licence. It was certainly not intended to be renewed every 2 years indefinitely.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm pretty certain Portugal at this point allows unsupervised.

They'll keep meddling with the system, they'll keep taking away the rights of those that passed tests - rather distrustful of both schools and Govt for not advising / removing entitlements.

I'll keep plodding along until I *need* to pass my test, although I must confess the urge to lose these L's is strong (not to get bigger bike just the bloody L's) Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Up to you, but there's nothing hard in the tests, and the window of opportunity to get a decent license on a 125 is closing fast.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
ignore me....

bloody TLDR got me in the ass

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PostPosted: 22:59 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Up to you, but there's nothing hard in the tests, and the window of opportunity to get a decent license on a 125 is closing fast.


How is it closing? I'm 44 not bothered about two year restriction.

It's not so much the test that bothers me but the waste of money it can turn out to be if they change the rules...again! Wasted money on countless lessons and test fees (passed) in 89.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
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It's not a test.

Daytona Paul, you should know better.


CaNsA I think he was referring one way to not have to redo the CBT is to pass the (full) test, I definitely don't think he meant the CBT is a test
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 22 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Got ya,

But you still need a valid CBT and a Theory pass before you can attempt the Mod1.
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PostPosted: 06:22 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
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How is it closing? I'm 44 not bothered about two year restriction.

It's not so much the test that bothers me but the waste of money it can turn out to be if they change the rules...again! Wasted money on countless lessons and test fees (passed) in 89.


It doesn't really affect you ollosm as you qualify, age wise, for DAS.

I'm intrigued, if you passed your test, how you considered it a waste of money though ???

Cansa, I do of course know that cbt is not a test Wink
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PostPosted: 07:33 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ollossm wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Up to you, but there's nothing hard in the tests, and the window of opportunity to get a decent license on a 125 is closing fast.


How is it closing? I'm 44 not bothered about two year restriction.

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Nope...if you pass the test on your 125 next year, you'll be stuck on a 125 PERMANENTLY unless you take your tests AGAIN on a bigger bike.
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
When I redid my CBT it was a matter of waiting around a lot someone to go out and do the road side of it,or making myself dizzy............which isin't hard(thought i'd get that in before someone else did)

Went there at 9am and didn't leave till gone 5pm

and that was my forth CBT
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ollossm wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Up to you, but there's nothing hard in the tests, and the window of opportunity to get a decent license on a 125 is closing fast.


How is it closing? I'm 44 not bothered about two year restriction.

It's not so much the test that bothers me but the waste of money it can turn out to be if they change the rules...again! Wasted money on countless lessons and test fees (passed) in 89.

If you pass on your 125 before next January, you should be fine. You'll have the 2 year 25kW restriction then it'll magically upgrade, all for the never-to-be-repeated bargain price of £121.50 - which itself has been held at that cost for years.

Regardless of age, you'll either pay more or get less license if you wait until post 2013 to sit your tests.

Personally I'd view spending money on re-sitting a CBT every couple of years as a waste of money.
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Personally I'd view spending money on re-sitting a CBT every couple of years as a waste of money.
I agree to that now Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ollossm wrote:
I'm pretty certain Portugal at this point allows unsupervised.

They'll keep meddling with the system, they'll keep taking away the rights of those that passed tests - rather distrustful of both schools and Govt for not advising / removing entitlements.

I'll keep plodding along until I *need* to pass my test, although I must confess the urge to lose these L's is strong (not to get bigger bike just the bloody L's) Very Happy


Yeah at less than £100 for both tests, not worth taking that gamble too soon Thumbs Down

Edit: add theory cost too.
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