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jamiea93
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: think hyosung gt125r first geared bike Reply with quote

Hello I'm new to the forum and is thinking of getting a hyosung in next two day, can anyone tell me what they are like I love the look and they look nice with tail tidy and if anyone got any good photos

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PostPosted: 18:07 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My lad has the unfaired Gt125 Comet ('05 model).

Good points is that when it's working it's ok. It has a good big bike road presence (take off the L plates and IMO you'd have to guess 125,250 or 650cc. Rides well and cruises on dual carriageway speeds ok.

Bad points it's expensive to maintain. No 3rd party aftermarket stuff like exhausts. Bike breakers also don't seem to touch them so spares are thin on the ground. Wemoto does the basic service stuff (chains, sprockets, bearings, etc,). Good point is some 250cc parts will fit the 125. Startright in Leeds appears to be the place to ask for parts in the UK. Hyosung have no real dealer network, they're sold from back street garages and parts places that also deal in a shedload of other cheap stuff from the Far East. Even these dealers tell you to 'phone Startright, gives you some idea of the level.

I can't vouch for the availability of the GT125R plastics. I suspect it'll get dropped at some point so you may need some. Also from experience the tank being the shape it is dents really easily.

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PostPosted: 18:18 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
My lad has the unfaired Gt125 Comet ('05 model).

Good points is that when it's working it's ok. It has a good big bike road presence (take off the L plates and IMO you'd have to guess 125,250 or 650cc. Rides well and cruises on dual carriageway speeds ok.

Bad points it's expensive to maintain. No 3rd party aftermarket stuff like exhausts. Bike breakers also don't seem to touch them so spares are thin on the ground. Wemoto does the basic service stuff (chains, sprockets, bearings, etc,). Good point is some 250cc parts will fit the 125. Startright in Leeds appears to be the place to ask for parts in the UK. Hyosung have no real dealer network, they're sold from back street garages and parts places that also deal in a shedload of other cheap stuff from the Far East. Even these dealers tell you to 'phone Startright, gives you some idea of the level.

I can't vouch for the availability of the GT125R plastics. I suspect it'll get dropped at some point so you may need some. Also from experience the tank being the shape it is dents really easily.

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Mine had a full scorpion stainless steel exhaust system. Also a few garages round here are official dealers, (Frasers of gloucester used to sell them, not anymore though I have seen some part ex's for sale there).

Besides that, yeah i'd recommend them. Never got stopped in 8 months of ownership for having no L plates on it, the only things that went wrong were clutch cable snapping (can happen on any bike), the side stand switch went (just bypassed it) and the headlight doing due to faulty connections which was my own fault.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv read good things about them and a garage near me does them, I like the size as I'm 6ft 14stone so need a big bike
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are good bikes by all accounts. Go for it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, they're not a barrel of laughs to work on. Get a good 'un, sell it on while it's still good and let someone else scrabble around for parts.

Workmate's 2006 GT125R had these issues:
Swing arm corroded (common problem on the older ones). Salvage replacement.
Removing it meant taking the exhaust off. Anti-tamper bolts and corrosion meant it came off in bits. Salvage replacement.
Front downpipe seized absolutely solid in head - we had to take the head off off to drill and chisel it out. Chemical metal repair to minor damage.
Front and rear brake master cylinders shagged. Front was replaced with some Chinese pit bike unit, rear had to be bought new from Korea. Rear was a total PITA to bleed.
Horn connectors rusted through. Swapped in one from my GPZ.
Instrument cluster hosed. Another salvage replacement.

His 'bargain' bike ended up costing him and arm and a leg. Then he binned it, scratched the plastics, and that's it back to being worth a fraction of what he's paid.

The engine is nice, but at the end of the day, it's a 125 in a 500cc sized bike, it's got an uphill struggle to haul it around (especially uphill).

tl;dr - get a YBR, CG or CBF, pass your tests really quickly.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look great. Allegedly from the same designer as the SV650. Apart from the stacked lights at the front, they look fairly similar, and are not far off in size and weight. They also have made parts for Suzuki, so about the same quality rust proofing. Earlier models appear to have had some problems with dropped valves and crappy orange peel paintwork.

Map has pretty much outlined the drawbacks. Do a search of Rogerborg's posts if you ever have to replace the exhaust downpipes, as Korean law says it has to be tamper proof so they riveted it in.

Scour the korider.com forums for everything Hyosung, tho you might bump into warped who might still own a broken one.

My heart would say, "They look awesome. Buy it!". My brain would say, "Buy any cheap 125 and get your test done asap. Then buy an old curvy SV probably for less, which even restricted to 33bhp will blow the Hyo 125 out of the water."[/parrot_mode]

If you get either and plan on riding in the Winter invest in some ACF50 Smile

Edit: Mr Borg beat me to it. Must learn to post quicker.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Re: think hyosung gt125r first geared bike Reply with quote

jamiea93 wrote:
Hello I'm new to the forum and is thinking of getting a hyosung in next two day, can anyone tell me what they are like I love the look and they look nice with tail tidy and if anyone got any good photos

Thanks

Jamie, you came in chat asking the same question and cried when told to avoid a Hyosung! WHy ask if you don't want too listen? Its like you know better and you just want too tell everyone that your buying a bike who's name sounds like a sewing machine. Buy the Hyosung and we will look forward to your posts in the near future regarding it being broken and where to get parts Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

if youre getting a fairly new one (judging by the picture), why not get a yamaha yzf r125. both 4 strokes so performance will be similar, but the yamaha looks better, would likely be better built, and parts would be easier to come by (there's people breaking them all the time). a 3 year old one would also be a similar price to the hyosung
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
They are good bikes by all accounts. Go for it Thumbs Up

Please can you post what these accounts are. Are these independent accounts or dealer/marketing/company info?
I admit the style has been revamped and so would like to know if the build quality has also improved.

That is providing your post is not some ironic comment I've missed.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 23 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its 23rd September 2012. On 19th January 2013, the new 3rd Directive Licence Laws ought to come into force.

117 days....

Things to do, to be able to get a licence worth having, while you still can, on a 125:- (delete as applicable)

1/ Apply for provisional licence entitlement
2/ Book & Take CBT course to gain CBT cert to validate provisional entitlement
3/ Book & Take Motorcycle Theory/Hazard Perception test
4/ Get a bike
5/ Get insurance for bike
6/ Get some bike gear
7/ Do some riding
8/ Maybe do some lessons
9/ Book and take Mod 1 Practical Test
10/ Book and take Mod 2 Practical Test

At which point you can flog on 'the bike' and look for something as physically large, stylish, practical, powerful, fast, economical, cheap or WHATEVER..... as you like......

Right here, Right NOW, getting a 125 learner legal...... well, its ONLY about half way down the list anyway... its NOT the 'most' important thing to be worrying about!

And with, what 117 days..... yeah.... just over three months, twelve weeks..... its still 'Do-able'... JUST, to get a licence comfortably in that time...

If you DONT fuck about....

And wasting time worrying about whether a GT125 or an YZF-R125 might be better or worse choices than each other, or a CBR125, a CBF125, or a YBR, or heaven forbid a Lexmoto Vixen..... is, I'm afraid a bit of unhelful fucking around.

They are all bikes, they are all learner legal bikes, you can gety a licence with ANY of them.

They are ALL small, they are ALL slow, and they ALL look a bit nobbish with an L-Plate stuck on them advertising what they are for all and sundry.

The differences are NOT really worth the debate or argument, and CERTAINLY not worth risking missing this brief window of opportunity to do something 'useful' (as in get your tests done!).

If you haven'ty got a photo-card licence in yoru pocket, this minute, that provides A-catagory proviusional entitlement.... get it sent off for, thats two weeks of the 117 straight away!

If you haven't got your CBT cert yet, BOOK IT NOW, and hoe your licence is back before the course date, or you will have two more weeks after your licence comes back to wait for a slot.

If you haven't got your motorcycle Theory, BOOK IT NOW or as soon as you have a drivers licence number! You dot need a bike to do it, nor do you need to have done your CBT. But another two week lead time to get an appointment and you NEED the pass cert before you can book anything else!

Mod 1... Get it booked as soon as you have your theory 'passed'

Mod 2... get it booked at the same time... but for ten days or two weeks after your Mod 1.

You cannot do mod 2 of you haven't passed mod 1. if you fail mod 1, you have to wait three days before you can repeat, but we have the test waiting lists to worry about, and probably at least two weeks to get another date anyway. Mod 2, test waits are getting longer, anything from three weeks at some (lucky) centres to over ten at others..... book early to avoid dissapointment, but leave that GAP, so that if you fail mod 1 you have the required five full clear working days 'notice' to change the apointment date, to put it back to after your re-booked mod 1.

THIS is the stuff that you ought to be worrying about and getting to grips with.....

NOT what 125 is a good buy......

117 days......

Get your arse in gear, stop fucking around, and could be a completely academic question in 60 days!! When with a clear shot, and a bit of luck, passing each test first time, you could be waving the L-'s good-bye, putting a shit-heap Lexmoto up for sale on e-bay, and fuck-arsing around as MUCH AS YOU LIKE..... on whether a GT650 with restrictors would be a better way to go that a GT250, or whether it would be as good to get an SV650 or tryand find a 250 Ninja.....

Waste time, leave stuff too late, suffer any set-backs, and that time is going to slip by and slip by and slip by.

And come spring next year, any-one on a 125 who HASN'T used it to get a licence with THIS year... is either going to be stuck with the 3rd directive rules; two years on a 125 only licence AFTER passing test, then another DAS style test on a 500 to get a restricted licence (you could have tomorrow testing on a 125 under current rules... without requirement to retest to upgrade in two years time), then another DAS style test two years later, to get the full unrestricted A that a 33bhp restricted licence awarded before January would atomatically become after two years without any other test, or any other expense...... Or waiting until you are over 24.... and doing it only once via DAS.

Personally, I don't see MUCH reason for buying a 125 at the moment OTHER than to use the window we have to get a licence with it.... and as such, its such a brief window, the bikes going to have such a limited period of usefulness.... ANY-BLUDY-THING with two wheels, a working engine, and a tax-disc that you can use on tests and get that licence is GOOD ENOUGH!

Reliability? It has to last 117 days. Performance? It has to do 30 through the speed trap on mod 1, you have to convince an examiner you aren't afraid to open the throttle on a national speed limit road... hit 55 for twenty seconds thats good enough! Handling? You have to hustle it through some cones on Mod 1, and avoid falling off infront of the examiner on mod 2. WHO CARES. Styling! Its for ten weeks or so, to get a licence with. You ENT going to marry it! Your having a one night stand, and its getting late. If its a goer, its a goer. If it dont look great in the morning... well... dont tell your mates, thats all! Wave that licence under thier nose, and go looking for a bike that you DO like, WHEN you can afford to be a bit more 'picky' about it!
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 24 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
shereen wrote:
They are good bikes by all accounts. Go for it Thumbs Up

Please can you post what these accounts are. Are these independent accounts or dealer/marketing/company info?
I admit the style has been revamped and so would like to know if the build quality has also improved.

That is providing your post is not some ironic comment I've missed.

Strictly anecdotally, they've sorted the swing arm corrosion (and the cam chain tensioners) and the export bikes don't have the anti tamper any more. But that could be owner cognitive dissonance for all we can tell.

And there's still that parts problem. Also, if OP is considering buying new, the MSRP is £3500. A Honda CBR125R is £3400. That's so sad that it's not even funny.
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PostPosted: 07:38 - 24 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
shereen wrote:
They are good bikes by all accounts. Go for it Thumbs Up

Please can you post what these accounts are. Are these independent accounts or dealer/marketing/company info?
I admit the style has been revamped and so would like to know if the build quality has also improved.

That is providing your post is not some ironic comment I've missed.


Someone I know had 1 and he reckoned it was a very good bike and good value for money. I would always take first hand experience over company bull shit.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 24 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine if you got one that had already been sorted, or got shot of it before problems started, you'd be delighted with it as a first bike. They are pretty nicely designed, look great, go OK, it's just the quality of some of the parts and the UK availability of them that's patchy.

How about "nice for a 125, but a bit more of a gamble than Japanese branded"?

Eh, if we had any common sense, we wouldn't be riding bikes in the first place. Wink
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 26 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

depreciation on newer models is quite bad, but on older models not so much, mine was an 04, bag of shit. bought for £850, sold for £950 Cool
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