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G The Voice of Reason
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On your budget/entry level stuff you'll struggle to build for more than you can buy for. Especially at this time of year when everyone's selling off 2012 bikes to make way for the 2013 kit.
If you were looking to top bigger money on a bike, then you can usually build for the same/less money. ____________________ My Flickr |
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Aye. Not a cheap job BUT if there is something specific you want on it that is unavailable or if you have a particular frame/running gear combination you want, it's sometimes the only way.
Like I'm just ordering parts to build a 700c wheel with a 3-speed hub in it to make an updated shopper bike out of an old Raleigh Pioneer for the wifes Mum. You can buy them but not with a rim worth having. It's going to land up costing more than buying a new bike but it'll be the bike she wants/needs/can ride.
From previous experience, it's to much like hard work trying to get a bike shop to build a wheel for me so I've decided to teach myself. I can re-dish and true a wheel so building one shouldn'ty be too much more painful. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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Posted: 14:14 - 16 Oct 2012 Post subject: |
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It should 'roll over' rocks, bumps, rocks and the like more easily due to the wider diamater - as an extreme example, try sticking a skate board wheel on the front a push bike. On the road, not a massive issue (with longer forks), but off-road it's going to get stuck on the first little rock.
Of course suspension will make up for it to some degree, but won't entirely compensate as the extreme example demonstrates.
I went for a '700c' hybrid bike partly for the higher gearing - you don't really get 26" ones with the same gearing. Less of an issue with mountain bikes, but I think a 29" is often geared that bit higher (well, the same, but with bigger wheels so effectively higher.)
Should give one a go sometime, but so far suspect I'd prefer the alternative of lighter weight and longer suspension travel. |
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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An interesting point to note is that "700c" and "29"er" rims are exactly the same diameter.
Also that many of the rims that claim to be 700C are, in fact, not. They are often wider than a 700C "Standard"* rim by a considerable margin. Especially the ones they sell for hybrid bikes.
Next thing I'm going to try is sticking a 29" tyre on the "700C" hybrid rim on my mountain bike. The cyclocross tyre I'm using can't cope with the combination of my weight and pointy stones taken at speed at any pressure that affords a degree of comfort.
* Not actually standardised in any way but in theory there are 700 A, B, C and D which denotes the different widths of rims on which nominally 70cm outside diameter tyres are fitted. Any rim of any width with a 622mm bead seat is now called 700C... Except the ones that are called 29"er. It's laugh a minute in cycle engineering. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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JonB Afraid of Mileage
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 11:02 - 26 Oct 2012 Post subject: |
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But if you do buy a bike from Halfords. Check, tighten and adjust EVERY SINGLE PART as if you'd built the bike yourself. Remove anything that should have been lubed and lube it with the appropriate grease/oil. Take the bottom bracket out and chase the threads through. Replace any loose bearings with an appropriate number of uncaged ones. Tension and stress relieve the wheels. Replace any cheap and nasty sundries they have scrimped on with decent stuff.
Then you'll have a bike like one you would have built yourself. WHich you may as well have. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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JonB Afraid of Mileage
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 232 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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