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Charlie
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Stiff choke plunger Reply with quote

Hi,

The choke plunger on my xt600e is starting to get stiff (oh err). It still works but I am worried that one day soon it will get stuck on. I've given it a quick squirt with WD40 and this hasn't helped.

The choke on the xt600e is directly on the carb, so it isn't a dry cable.

Short of taking the carb off and apart has anyone got any ideas?

Charlie Karma
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Matt-
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tryed Oiling the cable?

Maybe it could just be a faulty plunbger, i would look at the plunger first then the cable.

Good Luck

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Charlie
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matty King wrote:
Have you tryed Oiling the cable?

Maybe it could just be a faulty plunbger, i would look at the plunger first then the cable.

Good Luck

Matt


Cheers but you didn't read the first post to well:

Charlie wrote:
The choke on the xt600e is directly on the carb, so it isn't a dry cable.


After looking at the workshop guide it would appear I can dissemble it, or part of the plunger without removing the whole carb. Will give it a go later.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry had a late not out last night Laughing

Chances are it's got seized or the spring is worn, is their a screw holding it in ?

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PostPosted: 10:16 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matty King wrote:
Have you tryed Oiling the cable?

Maybe it could just be a faulty plunbger, i would look at the plunger first then the cable.

Good Luck

Matt


Please be quiet and let the adults help people.

First pull the plunger out and make sure it's not bent. If it looks ok try spraying it with PTFE lubricantand pulling it in and out a few times to free it up. It will probably be the aluminium carb body corroding so making the brass rod plunger stiff.

If the spray lube works spray it again a few days later with spray grease.

If it doesn't strip the carb
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Charlie
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Sickpup.

Used TF2 first time round as I didn't have WD40. Anyhow I gave it a good old spray and then removed part 12 whole. Gave this a good dousing and operated it a couple of time giving it a good spray in each position and cleared any muck I found. I didn't separate this part.

Moving the plunger up and down in this assembly gave the same feeling of stiffness that I get in normal operation so I assume the problem lies here and not internally within the carb. Seems to have freed up a bit, but not as easy as I remember. Maybe I am remembering wrong. Diagram here:

https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/screen_shot_2012-09-30_at_13.08.01.png

Bike is fairly new, 57 plate (import from Greece), so I doubt/hope that it isn't already corroding, it's only done 17,000 km! Although I've recently started using it to commute so it's now finally getting a daily use.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rod with the pull knob. Pull it out and oil the parts that slide through the carbs. If still stuck whip the carb tops off and out with the diaghprams and you will see the internal part of the plunger at top front. Choke off oil the pluger and pull it out. Do that till it free's up. I had this on two of my bank of four. You should get into the carb tops without having to take them off the bike.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 01 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully you should be able to pull the choke plunger out, then ease the rubber seal off the retaining body, unscrew it after first loosening with a suitable spanner and the whole choke assembly will be ready for inspection without having to remove the Carb from the bike.

Be careful not to damage any seal on the plunger if fitted. Also check the operation of the plunger shaft within the retaining body.

It's possible a bit of grit may have entered the plunger chamber and this is causing your problem. Having lubed up as required, check the chamber before reinstalling the plunger unit for any debris. the tiniest bit of grit could prevent the plunger from sealing correctly and this could result in additional (unwanted) fuel entering the combustion chamber.
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