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PostPosted: 14:31 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: cheapest way onto a track? Reply with quote

I cant wait to get on a track, been keeping on eye on the trackdays website and the good tracks near me (west mids) are quite a lot of dough, normally between £120 and £150. I know thats not a lot in comparison to racing but its a lot to my very rubbish bank balance right now.
Dying to get on Cladwell/ Mallory/ Oulton park, but surely there must be a cheaper way onto an old airfield or not so big track? Wondering if anyone knows any such magical place in the mids?
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep an eye on focused events as they do 48 hour special discounts relatively frequently. Normally 30 quid off the normal price. Snetterton can be done for 60-70.
Unfortunately this isn't the best time of year for trackdays as the weather is poo more often than not. Plus its just cold. Though that does make track days cheaper compared to summer months.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for that ill keep an eye out.. were you in this country this "summer" the weather was poo for the whole lot as far as i can remember..!
I'm hoping for a late warm but most of all dry end of oct, hopefully can snaffle a late deal! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: cheapest way onto a track? Reply with quote

pooley_99 wrote:
I cant wait to get on a track, been keeping on eye on the trackdays website and the good tracks near me (west mids) are quite a lot of dough, normally between £120 and £150. I know thats not a lot in comparison to racing but its a lot to my very rubbish bank balance right now.
Dying to get on Cladwell/ Mallory/ Oulton park, but surely there must be a cheaper way onto an old airfield or not so big track? Wondering if anyone knows any such magical place in the mids?


Cadwell is often £99 but to be honest, the trackday itself is the least of all of the costs involved in trackday-ing. If you can't afford to pay for a trackday, don't do one as you'll become addicted and never have any money ever again.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahadumbarse wrote:
most will let you do just 1 session of 15-20 for around £20


Really? I've done approximately 20 trackdays and I've never heard this?
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally £100-£150 depending on track. If you leave it late there is a chance of catching a reduced price last minute. BUT since the weather has been crap a lot of people are now doing it.

There are taster courses at bedford autodome.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Hahadumbarse wrote:
most will let you do just 1 session of 15-20 for around £20


Really? I've done approximately 20 trackdays and I've never heard this?



Yeah really, turn up and you simply ask them, seen it loads of times at trackdays. My mate turned up and got 2-3 sessions once, as people crash out there's loads of space left Wink
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:28 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahadumbarse wrote:
most will let you do just 1 session of 15-20 for around £20


MSV do what they call taster session where you can just turn up and do one session. The trouble is you still have to do a full safety briefing/registration and noise test which takes the best part of 45 minutes just to get 20 minutes track time, then some fucker will crash and get the session red flagged half way through.

You can get some really cheap deal in the middle of winter, I did one at Snetterton a couple of years ago for £45 but the grass was still covered in snow, track was dry though Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: cheapest way onto a track? Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

Cadwell is often £99 but to be honest, the trackday itself is the least of all of the costs involved in trackday-ing. If you can't afford to pay for a trackday, don't do one as you'll become addicted and never have any money ever again.


Totally agree Thumbs Up

I do trackdays on the cheap (£800 bike, second hand leathers and tyres, ride to track etc.) but it's still a bloody expensive hobby.

The only track I've seen do taster sessions is bedford but personally I don't see the point. If you've never done one you're not really going to get much out of 20 minutes going round apart from a strong sense of disappointment that you have to come off the track before you've even got to grips with it.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you want to race.

The MiniMotard scene (Pit bike Supermoto), is probably one of, if not the cheapest form of motorsport out there.
Over the past 4 years, I've probably done 50 track days. Hundreds of hours of track time. And it costs as little as £20/£25 per day.

Obviously there is the outlay of a bike etc...




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PostPosted: 22:42 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't put a price on doing what you really want to do, wanna get on a track? pay up and do it. Economise somewhere else to live the dream or just talk about it with mates in the pub.

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PostPosted: 22:53 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:
You can't put a price on doing what you really want to do, wanna get on a track? pay up and do it. Economise somewhere else to live the dream or just talk about it with mates in the pub.

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well said Smile

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PostPosted: 02:15 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahhhhh man once again my hopes of getting on a track are shattered . ill never be able to afford to race on a track . isnt there a witherspoons option
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
Break in at night and ride for free.

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Is that the voice of experinece?? Wink
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find through the gap in the hedge works!!
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd need bloody good headlights Laughing

If you're not going to sink a load of money into a decent trackbike + mods + trailer/van etc. then if you can afford the £100 to actually do the trackday plus the £30 fuel then it's doable.

If you can't afford to piss £130 up the wall on something you enjoy then you really can't afford to take up a hobby like trackdays. If you can afford that then just do it.

I think for me the total cost of a trackday is:-

Booking £80-150
Fuel £40-50 (including getting to track)
Tyres £20 (£80 race scrubs lasting about 4 days because I overuse them)
Oil+filter £15 (changed every other trackday)
Brake pads £10 (amount taken off a set of good track pads)
Food/coffee £10

So typically around £200-250, not taking into account the wear and tear on the bike. Not that bad until you start spending money on modifying your bike.

Then of course, you might crash your bike too which could cost you a lot. A lot of people do crash (at least 5 per trackday I reckon) but I don't know how likely it is on an individual basis (perhaps 100 bikes on a given trackday so 5% or a 1 in 20 chance?). I've done about 13 now and have never crashed but I've had a lot of close calls and I've no doubt it will happen.

EDIT: To get me there in the first place I don't think you could do it much cheaper than me:-

£800 Cat D ZX6R
£80 Race scrubs (including £20 fitting)
£20 leathers off ebay
£60 Good pads

That's it...the bike already had braided lines and I've not changed any parts, just raised the back 12mm with the existing ride height adjuster to decrease stability a bit and get more ground clearance then set up the suspension.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pooley_99 wrote:
mistergixer wrote:
Break in at night and ride for free.

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Is that the voice of experinece?? Wink


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PostPosted: 10:12 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:


£800 Cat D ZX6R
£80 Race scrubs (including £20 fitting)
£20 leathers off ebay
£60 Good pads

That's it...the bike already had braided lines and I've not changed any parts, just raised the back 12mm with the existing ride height adjuster to decrease stability a bit and get more ground clearance then set up the suspension.


Yea using my stock CBR600, would mean that all i need to cough up is the fee and petrol. Race scrubs would be beneficial but how well would the mitchelin pilots which are on the bike, stand up on a track? I mean they would get a lot of stick (pardon the pun) but should be up to the job?
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well tyre wear is directly related to how fast you go, particularly how hard you push the rear out of corners. Huge difference between going round sedately and absolutely hammering it round. Doing the former shouldn't put much wear on a tyre at all.

Not sure how sticky they'd be compared to racetecs/supercorsas/power ones etc. but it doesn't really matter as long as they are predictable on the limit.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could just pimp your road bike out with trick parts , paint and graphics and take that round like me lol

If all goes Pete tong im sure an elegant low side crash is better than bouncing off the kerb , lamppost and number 49 bus on the local road.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 03 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pooley_99 wrote:
Race scrubs would be beneficial but how well would the mitchelin pilots which are on the bike, stand up on a track? I mean they would get a lot of stick (pardon the pun) but should be up to the job?


Pilot Power 2CT's at Donington, let go on the penultimate lap of the last session due to some ham fistedness coming out of the Melbourne Loop but otherwise no problem.

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