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Lord Percy
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: In the whole world, where would you most like to be from? Reply with quote

It just occurred to me that everyone seems to bitch about the UK these days. They have no pride and think the country's gone to pot, etc etc.

Well then, which place would you rather have cultural and historical ties to?

For me, I'm British through and through!

Maybe most of this forum are pretty proud too, but I'm just relaying what the papers seem to always say.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to be South Africa mid eighties Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:49 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australia.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A nice part of the USA.

I'd love to have a handgun in the bedside cabinet and carry one around with me too. That is true freedom. The better weather would also be a plus.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anywhere but the USA.

The thought of being surrounded by gun nuts with handguns in their bedside cabinets and tucked into their trousers is as scary as it is ridiculous.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mongolia in the very early 1200's.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Birmingham, the city of 1000 trades. It has allowed me to travel the world.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Birmingham, the city of 100 trades. It has allowed me to travel the world.


Ha lol ... i joined the Navy to see the world, got posted to HMS FORWARD ........

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PostPosted: 00:06 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Texas for a bit. Warm, sunny, convenient, friendly, cheap, exciting.

I was delighted to get home. Dunno why - just felt like I'd missed the rain.

Colour me British - this place is awesome really.
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

covdude wrote:
Ariel Badger wrote:
Birmingham, the city of 100 trades. It has allowed me to travel the world.


Ha lol ... i joined the Navy to see the world, got posted to HMS FORWARD ........

In Birmingham ! Twisted Evil Very Happy


I know Forward well, closest naval ship to a football ground in the UK.
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been all over the world working from USA to Asia/Australia, Scandanavia to South Africa, enjoyed it all mostly. But I can honestly say I wouldn't live anywhere I have been over good old Blighty. You don't choose your country, your country chooses you.

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PostPosted: 00:32 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would always have kind of liked to be able to tell everyone I was from Italy.

I could almost get away with it, still having kept my married (Italian) surname for the sake of continuity for my daughter. But having been there, and seen what Italians can really be like ... I wouldn't probably bother. It is fairly cool having an Italian surname, though.

BUT ... (as I suspect most of the regular BCF population know very well) I'm fiercely proud of originally being from New Zealand.

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PostPosted: 00:36 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen a fair bit of the developed and undeveloped world and I would dearly love to live in Tokyo.
As for where to be from? I'm well aware of the HUGE gift I was given being born in the UK and also aware I could have used it better.
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question isn't where you'd like to live, it's where you'd like to be from.

The problem is that where you're from affects your culture, upbringing, education, potentially even personality, so it turns into a bit of a trick question. Where would you like to be from, given who you are now; vs where you would like to be from, given what you would be if you were from there.

And I think ego-defence / self-justification / cognitive dissonance resists this kind of introspection. Because the person who judges us is ourselves; but the correct question is to think about the person we would be, in a different situation, judging themselves. And that takes quite a stretch of the imagination, not to mention insight into other cultures.

For example, maybe it feels really good to be a smug self-satisfied Frenchman. Even if we would not like to be French, maybe if we were French, we would be happier at being French, than how happy we are at who we are now. And if that truly is the case, then it would make sense to want to be from France, even if you don't like French people. (I am of course playing to stereotypes here, forgive me.)

So ultimately, I don't think I have enough information to answer this question truthfully.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who gives a shit where someone is from? Judge people on their merit, not on the merit of people from history that happened to live in the same country or on a perceived national "type" that will not be applicable to all.
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd most like to be from London, which is a bit of a result, as that's exactly where I'm from Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: In the whole world, where would you most like to be from Reply with quote

sa1988 wrote:

Well then, which place would you rather have cultural and historical ties to?


Why would you need either of these ties to anywhere?
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PostPosted: 01:55 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 09:18 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
Who gives a shit where someone is from? Judge people on their merit, not on the merit of people from history that happened to live in the same country or on a perceived national "type" that will not be applicable to all.

Indeed - this is one case where I'd agree with the bible on pride being a sin - too often people seem to be proud of the things they have absolutely no control over.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
a perceived national "type" that will not be applicable to all.

Except the French, who really are all arrogant knob-heads.
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
T0MMY wrote:
Who gives a shit where someone is from? Judge people on their merit, not on the merit of people from history that happened to live in the same country or on a perceived national "type" that will not be applicable to all.

Indeed - this is one case where I'd agree with the bible on pride being a sin - too often people seem to be proud of the things they have absolutely no control over.


I've seen that more and more since moving round the world. I don't understand national pride above all else. But I do think where you come from has a massive influence on your views & personality so is something to always remember and even have a bit of pride in.

I support England in sport, but I'd rather live in India or the south of France and I'm actually enjoying Luxembourg for the moment (not been there long enough to really make a call yet though).
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Iceland had the balls to chuck their bank fraudsters in prison, their economy is doing rather better than the rest of us. Loads of free hot baths and sexy viking women too Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 09:40 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
T0MMY wrote:
a perceived national "type" that will not be applicable to all.

Except the French, who really are all arrogant knob-heads.
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I like the French, you need to know three things...

1. Everyone truly believes in equality; as an example a waiter is not there to serve you, he is there to do his job and if you treat him as an equal - say hello politely etc. as a minimum he will bring you food pleasantly.
2. Try to speak French - they are very proud of their language. If you attempt and fail too badly they will switch to English to help. It's an equality and respect thing again - they would try to speak English in England.
3. The Parisians are not French, they have the same insular solitary lives that happen in London. Just worse.

Outside of Paris I have not met a Frenchman who has not been pleasant and helpful. I'm in the French corner of Luxembourg and I'm constantly surprised by everyone acknowledging other people on the street, it's like the olden days...
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:


I like the French, you need to know three things...

1. Everyone truly believes in equality; as an example a waiter is not there to serve you, he is there to do his job and if you treat him as an equal - say hello politely etc. as a minimum he will bring you food pleasantly.
2. Try to speak French - they are very proud of their language. If you attempt and fail too badly they will switch to English to help. It's an equality and respect thing again - they would try to speak English in England.
3. The Parisians are not French, they have the same insular solitary lives that happen in London. Just worse.

Outside of Paris I have not met a Frenchman who has not been pleasant and helpful. I'm in the French corner of Luxembourg and I'm constantly surprised by everyone acknowledging other people on the street, it's like the olden days...


I agree with you. I lived in France for 4 years and almost every Frenchie I met was warm and welcoming. I love the country, the food, the wine, and the plethora of activities available.

The French from the South are a lot friendlier than those from the North though.. I think it's because of the shit weather they share with the UK which makes them moody.
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