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PostPosted: 11:14 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: please read and share, 5 year old girl kidnapped Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: please read and share, 5 year old girl kidnapped Reply with quote
hope they castrate the cunt responsible, also hope she returns home unharmed
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
The scrote that done this should be hung up by his neck.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The scrote that done this should be hung up by his shaven and skinned, salt and vinegar covered scrotum.


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PostPosted: 12:24 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Let's just assume the best for now, and hope that it will turn out relatively OK.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Everyone seems to be talking about it here. Wonder why this has got so much media attention...

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The estimated total number of missing incidents recorded by the police in
2009/10 was approximately 356,000. This means that police in Britain record
about 1,000 missing reports every day.
Some individuals may be reported missing more than once. The data within this
report indicates that adjusting for instances of individuals going missing
repeatedly approximately 200,000 people went missing in 2009/10.
The vast majority of those people who go missing return or are found quickly,
data within this report indicates that between 55 to 80 per cent of missing
people return within 24 hours. Only around one per cent will remain outstanding
after one year, approximately 2,000 people.
Some people may come to harm while they are missing. Given the estimate of
200,000 people going missing per annum the data indicates that approximately
between eight and thirty five people will be found dead each week after being
reported missing.

https://www.npia.police.uk/en/docs/Missing_Persons_Data_and_Analysis_2009-10.pdf
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
alpha, it's just how it is, example this year we had the shaw gas explosion and also nelly (old woman was mugged and died protecting her handbag because it had her husbands ashes in!!!)

some are in the spotlight, some are not there is no logical reason as to why / why not, it is irrelivent anyway a 5 year old has been abducted
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well personally I wont be giving a fuck about this one when thousands of people go missing a year...it's just media selling papers, then people get uppidy about it and make knee jerk reactions...like this thread. Soon there will be a petition banning vans from being near children Rolling Eyes Razz

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PostPosted: 12:48 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alpha-9 wrote:
Everyone seems to be talking about it here. Wonder why this has got so much media attention...

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The estimated total number of missing incidents recorded by the police in
2009/10 was approximately 356,000. This means that police in Britain record
about 1,000 missing reports every day.
Some individuals may be reported missing more than once. The data within this
report indicates that adjusting for instances of individuals going missing
repeatedly approximately 200,000 people went missing in 2009/10.
The vast majority of those people who go missing return or are found quickly,
data within this report indicates that between 55 to 80 per cent of missing
people return within 24 hours. Only around one per cent will remain outstanding
after one year, approximately 2,000 people.
Some people may come to harm while they are missing. Given the estimate of
200,000 people going missing per annum the data indicates that approximately
between eight and thirty five people will be found dead each week after being
reported missing.

https://www.npia.police.uk/en/docs/Missing_Persons_Data_and_Analysis_2009-10.pdf
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Little Charlie goes missing for an hour:

"Charlie? Oh, I think I last saw him playing in the trees over there..."


Little Lizzie goes missing for an hour:

"OH GAWD WHERE'S MAH DAWTER??! CALL THE POLEESS!"

Meanwhile, at The Legion of Doom (The Sun)

"SIR, REPORTS OF A MISSING GIRL AND DISTRESSED PARENTS!"

"PUT IT ON THE FRONT PAGE! CHECK THAT, EVERY PAGE! IS SHE BLONDE? CUTE? GOOD, CALL MURDOCH AND PUT IT IN ALL THE NEWSPAPERS!"
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think I'm more or less with Alpha on this. You can't really care oh so much about a little girl going missing when thousands go missing every damn week.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Benson_JV wrote:
I think I'm more or less with Alpha on this. You can't really care oh so much about a little girl going missing when thousands go missing every damn week.


I agree to a degree (see what I did there?) but if the media involvement in this case contributes to finding the girl safe and well then shouldn't that be a good thing?
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
shereen wrote:
Benson_JV wrote:
I think I'm more or less with Alpha on this. You can't really care oh so much about a little girl going missing when thousands go missing every damn week.


I agree to a degree (see what I did there?) but if the media involvement in this case contributes to finding the girl safe and well then shouldn't that be a good thing?


But why her and not another missing child? Rich family?
I know for a fact people pay newspapers to print what they want, there was a Louis Theroux on Max Clifford, in it Simon cowell was paying him to print stories of him seeing beautiful women to battle the rumours that he's gay, it was all set up meticulously
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not saying media involvment is a bad thing, if it helps find her then that's absolutely ace. It's just annoying that because it's plastered all over the place every single person in my work has been going on about it, yet they don't even spare a second to think of t'others, just seems...wrong.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
As per the Madelaine case, you have to ask where were the parents? Would you leave a 5 year old girl outside unaccompanied by an adult in today's society?

Hope she's found for sure.....but you do have to question the parents.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Benson_JV wrote:
I'm not saying media involvment is a bad thing, if it helps find her then that's absolutely ace. It's just annoying that because it's plastered all over the place every single person in my work has been going on about it, yet they don't even spare a second to think of t'others, just seems...wrong.


This exactly. Thumbs Up
It annoys me that preference is given to finding certain children because they are cute or have a family that wants to cash in on their misery by selling their stories.

I guess it's not the publicity that annoys me, it's the fact the police and services fall to media pressure, making them biased/unfair

Madeline is the perfect example. how much money and focus went into that when there are thousands of others that are missing?

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PostPosted: 13:27 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
The person responsible should have almost a severe punishment as you'd get for posting this in the wrong forum....

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PostPosted: 13:38 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I suspect the reason this has gotten so much media coverage is that the media know an awful lot more than they can report at the moment so know that it's a story that will run for a while.

The last missing girl that I remember the national media running with in a big was was found dead in her Grandma's loft... I believe this is going to have a similar ending.
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It's interesting the amount of time people on this forum devote to loudly saying "I'm not interested in this"
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It's interesting the amount of time people on this forum devote to loudly saying "I'm not interested in this"

I'm not interested bro!
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
The police are getting pretty good at keeping an eye on the parents/relatives. Making them do press releases etc.

Let's hope this isn't another one of those cases.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alpha-9 wrote:
Everyone seems to be talking about it here. Wonder why this has got so much media attention...


Because, despite those 100k people going missing this one is different. Most missing people are lost or runaways, this one has evidence of her being enticed into a van.

That happens incredibly rarely and is a completely different prospect to someone losing their kid in a shopping centre or a teenager getting the hump with their parents.

Plus, sometimes random stuff just gets the backing of the internet. A tweet by Philip Schofield and then Stephen Fry make all the difference - it suddenly becomes a story hence the coverage!
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Redoko wrote:
The police are getting pretty good at keeping an eye on the parents/relatives. Making them do press releases etc.

Let's hope this isn't another one of those cases.


You always know who did it immediately there's a press conference with any family member(s) in it. :/

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PostPosted: 14:52 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hovered over "off topic", realised that I have a 5 year old daughter. Thinking

thepuma wrote:
As per the Madelaine case, you have to ask where were the parents? Would you leave a 5 year old girl outside unaccompanied by an adult in today's society?

And where's your magical point when it becomes safe to let them out of your sight for a minute? Go on, set it in stone. Raising a child is about equipping him or her for the world, not hiding them away from it like some gap toothed backwoods compound dweller.

The vast majority of "missing people" are stroppy teens doing a bunk, many of them from care, where Computer Says to step aside then call it in the second they're past curfew. Plod is pretty sick and tired of rounding up ferals and dragging them back to their handlers, in the full knowledge that they'll go in the front door and out the back window if they haven't had their nightly quota of jollies.

A 5 year old lured into a van is a very different story, and it's unlikely to have a happy ending.

Still off topic, mind. Unless... where's Robby?
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 02 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Hovered over "off topic", realised that I have a 5 year old daughter. Thinking

thepuma wrote:
As per the Madelaine case, you have to ask where were the parents? Would you leave a 5 year old girl outside unaccompanied by an adult in today's society?

And where's your magical point when it becomes safe to let them out of your sight for a minute? Go on, set it in stone. Raising a child is about equipping him or her for the world, not hiding them away from it like some gap toothed backwoods compound dweller.




Yeah but do we know she was 'out of sight' for just one minute? I've not listened to too much of the coverage, but gather she was out playing up the road when she was taken.

Now, I don't have any kids so maybe I'm not the best to comment, but I'm pretty sure when I was 5 years old I wasn't allowed to just wander off up the roads playing in the street somewhere.

bare in mind we are talking 5 years old...not 7,8,9 .....imho a five year old girl shouldn't be let roaming the streets playing whilst her parents don't really know where she is.

call me old fashioned.

Ps...it was reported she was seen getting into the van at 7pm.....so its pretty much dark by then. I certainly don't think a five year old girl should be playing out 'up the road somewhere' when its dark. Like I say, I'm old fashioned maybe.
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