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DonDino
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: Secure parking Reply with quote

I live on the outskirts of Manchester.
When I ride my bike to the city centre, I see bikes parked in all sorts of ways.
Most of them are next to bike rails (I think they were originally meant for push bikes but there's more motorbikes than pushbikes parked there), some are parked just with a disc lock, some chained to a rail, some both. From time to time there is one that is also fully covered when it's parked there.
Yet, I also see other bikes parked outside shops for hours, not chained to anything and not even a disc lock on them.

I myself normally park at a rail and use a chain and disc lock.

What's your preferred way to park securely?
Are town centres really so safe as to be able to leave a bike parked without chaining it to anything?
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes no maybe poss. Idea Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a shitty beaten up bike. Usually gets left alone . Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No!
Those who don't secure their bikes just probably haven't had one stolen (yet). They'll be more careful once they do Wink
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a bike stolen fella. It does make sense to lock them up, but to be fair all the locks seem all too easy to break through.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

just think of it this way dude.... if your bike is locked up, which is more likely to get pinched? yours, or the one with no security

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PostPosted: 07:48 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ocatoro wrote:
just think of it this way dude.... if your bike is locked up, which is more likely to get pinched? yours, or the one with no security

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That depends. Which would you rather steal?
- 1998 R1 that's locked up
- 1980s rat bike that looks like it's fucked a scrap heap that isn't locked up

Personally I lock my bike up even though it's a pile of rubbish. I got a big chain and big padlock cheaply, may as well use them. I chain mine through the frame, through the wheel and around a metal pole. 1.6m chain is pure awesomeness.
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PostPosted: 07:56 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:

Personally I lock my bike up even though it's a pile of rubbish. I got a big chain and big padlock cheaply, may as well use them. I chain mine through the frame, through the wheel and around a metal pole. 1.6m chain is pure awesomeness.


Right. I do the same, chain to a rail and disc lock at front.
I don't get people who just leave their sport bikes on the pavement like that in town. Next time I see one I'll take a photo.

Also, you say you put the chain through the frame. I guess each bike is different, but mine doesn't have any integral parts of the frame where passing the chain would be really secure. I can pass it round the suspension on the back, but that's an easy bolt to undo. I can pass it round the passenger footpeg holder, but that's also easy to undo. So I just pass it round the wheel. What the hell, if they remove the back wheel, they still can't roll the other half away (due to disc lock)!
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike is brilliant for it Smile

When I'm not using the chain it goes around the side of the bike, resting underneath the grab handle at the back, wrapping around the bike with the padlock resting against the mudguard.

Actually, you can see it in the attached image. It's the thing in the red sleeve.

As for when it's chained up:
https://www.motorcyclesupermarket.com/images/bikes/images/10528.1348317636.lhs.jpg

There's a gap between the thick part of the frame (where the footpeg is) and the semi-circle cutout from the engine just above. That's where it goes through the frame. It also goes through the frame in the V where the pillion footpeg is. From there it goes through the back wheel and under a thinner part of the frame, under the seat and through over the top of the chain guard. Then both parts wrap around the metal pole and I padlock it together.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am i the only one that thought of spare tyre jokes when looking at that photo Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always chain and padlock whatever bike I am out on and stick on a disc lock. The feeling of returning to find my bike stolen, getting nothing more that a crime ref no out of the rozzers, having to use public transport, pay insurance excess and declare the theft & claim for the following 5 years is not something I am keen to repeat.
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the spare tyre help with back/hip protection? Laughing

I don't have the first gap your bike has, maybe my new ER6 will have something similar. I have the V-shaped passenger footpeg bracket, but it's two easy bolts to remove and off it goes so not much protection.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichieZX6R wrote:
Am i the only one that thought of spare tyre jokes when looking at that photo Laughing Laughing


Nope, I even made one my self. Laughing

DonDino wrote:
Does the spare tyre help with back/hip protection? Laughing

I don't have the first gap your bike has, maybe my new ER6 will have something similar. I have the V-shaped passenger footpeg bracket, but it's two easy bolts to remove and off it goes so not much protection.


The best way to reduce force in a crash is to increase the impact time, the principle that an airbag uses. The addition of time spent slowing down reduces the force and thus reduces the chance of injury.

I figure that wearing a tyre will make me roll down the road, ensuring that no matter what speed I come off at, I roll to a healthy stop.

Either that or I just needed to get my tyre changed and I don't have a car. Mr. Green

I'm pretty sure the V on my bike is welded too. Not 100% sure though. Luckily with all the places I can put it through the frame, if they can take the V off it doesn't actually change anything. At worst the chain might be able to touch the floor.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I have to ride a motorbike into Manchester City Centre (rare) I park it in the bike bays behind Primark, lock the front wheel to one of the railings and put another chain through the back wheel and over the bike. It's usually pretty packed in that bike park but the traffic wardens in Manchester are ruthless so I never want to take any chances.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

KLR600 wrote:
When I have to ride a motorbike into Manchester City Centre (rare) I park it in the bike bays behind Primark, lock the front wheel to one of the railings and put another chain through the back wheel and over the bike. It's usually pretty packed in that bike park but the traffic wardens in Manchester are ruthless so I never want to take any chances.


I usually park it at the bike rails on Deansgate opposite the pizza place or on the ones at the beginning of St Ann's Square.

It's legal to park on the pavement as long as you're not causing an obstruction, so no worries about traffic wardens!
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:


Either that or I just needed to get my tyre changed and I don't have a car. Mr. Green

I'm pretty sure the V on my bike is welded too. Not 100% sure though. Luckily with all the places I can put it through the frame, if they can take the V off it doesn't actually change anything. At worst the chain might be able to touch the floor.


Haha Laughing

I'll check how my new bike's frame is configured (once I get it Bounce! ) and see if I can do the same rather than just passing it through the rear wheel.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manchester...CHAIN THAT FECKER UP WITH 30 CHAINS!!!!

but seriously, i'd never leave a bike in Manc centre without at least a chain and a disc lock.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should add (as I just remembered) that I've seen a few tramps/chavs sitting on bikes in bike parks. I saw two guys sitting on a Harely that was parked in the bays behind Primark once but they were gone before I got close enough to say anything. It was obvious they didn't own it and I highly doubt they'd of left any details had they caused any damage...

Might be worth getting a cheapo cover too if you're leaving it in Manchester a lot!

I pretty much just cycle into the Manchester these days as I know I can usually leave my mountain bike somewhere quite safe and indoors.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rule I used to employ with cycling was "Always lock your bike next to a more expensive one which is less well secured". It's not about being faster than the lion, it's about being faster than the slowest person in the group.

Now I motorcycle, and work in Windsor; not many other bikes, BUT, I ride a chinese 125, and one of my co-workers rides a nice customised Yamaha Dragstar 650. I lock mine to a bike rack, his is 10 feet away, secured only (I think) by steering lock.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moderately decent-looking bike lock... that's about it.

Better than nowt at least Razz
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

disk lock and chain to whatevers sturdy enough to keep the feckers off it. Also near something heavy i can use as a weapon if the feckers do try it. Twisted Evil
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