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Thought about one of the maxi scooters  ____________________ "Nitrous is like a cheap hooker, you want to hit it but are scared of the consequences |
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Yes I have. I used to not care about image, and had a yp250. Before I had that, I tried a burgman 400. The burgman was better on motorway, but the yp250 was much more agile and nippy in town.
After I had the yp250, I had a gilera runner 180sp 2 stroke, which was better handling and faster.
If my commute was all town riding, I'd consider getting a another runner, but I'm more image conscious these days and am only 3 months into my job.
The yp250 was ok on motorways, but would run out of lean angle quite quickly on twisties which could be a bit scarey at times when you grind the centre stand after going too fast into a corner. I suppose I could have removed the centre stand.
So for the moment I'm ruling out scooters, as big ones are a bit tail happy, small ones don't feel right on a motorway and most importantly, I dont have the balls to turn up in the works car park on something that could make me a laughing stock. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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London couriers don't stop raving about new nc700s.
They buy them new.
Not the fastest but perfect for commuting.
80mpg is similar what 125cc scooters get. ____________________ MCForum meetup - One of the biggest motorcycle clubs in UK |
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why is it 10 miles further home then to work  ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
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Because of the budget I would suggest older Honda.
CBF600 or CB500 are considered as one of the best commuters in the price range.
They do decent mpg as well and are cheap to run.
60m/h is very slow however. You could do it even on 125cc and get way over 100mpg. ____________________ MCForum meetup - One of the biggest motorcycle clubs in UK |
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I wouldn't suggest a "moto" on the motorway.
I sat on my TT600R at 80 for a fair bit of time, by the end of it my neck and back were quite sore.
I've ridden a fair few things on the motorway now given that I work at the end of the M20 I can't see why you have an issue with the TT, the Thundercat I had was ideal.
BMW F650?
XL1000V?
It sounds like you want the bike everyone dreams of, ideal handling, perfect in town, not slow but not too fast, good mpg and motorway mileage...
If you are only doing 50/60mph on a motorway, I really cannot see the issue with something like a Varadero 125 or a CB250 or something, pennies to run, servicing/tyres is just pocket change..
Or, just grab yourself a CB500, fit some muffs, heated grips, wear some waterproof trousers and get on with it? I'm going to try using the Vara 125 on the motorway at some point next week, its a non limited motorway, I do 23 miles there and 26 miles back. It won't be bad at all, used an RS125 before hand  |
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| Groove wrote: | I think you should re-test a R1.
I once heard how you could adjusted your speed with a touch of the throttle. |
As opposed to... ?
Anyway I'll chuck my vote in with the "basically anything in the 125-250cc range" camp. Maybe even 100-300cc.
If you're only ever topping out aroudn 50-60mph then anything spicier is overkill, unless you think you're regularly going to need to accelerate from rest up to that moderate cruising speed in significantly less than 10 seconds (mind that 30mph is about halfway through second gear for me going full bore on a CG, too - a launch that rarely sees anyone keeping pace in the rush hour... when driving, most of the time I'm feather touch within the flow in my modest hatchback). It'll just be chunkier, heavier and thirstier.
It's not even like you're going a monstrous distance on each leg, though that round trip 5 days a week will soon add up fuelwise. Certainly I found lesser distance than that started to get a bit comical in terms of how much of my disposable income was being fed into the pumps when I was doing it in something that was a heavy drinker.
How do you manage to find 10 miles by going city and countryside rather than motorway though? I manage to shave some distance off myself that way (motorway's full of roadworks at the moment so the time taken is roughly equal), but still nowhere near that much difference, and that's going across Birmingham. You're around London I guess? Maybe Stoke/Stafford at a push? (That continual crawl on otherwise perfectly good open rural roads sounds very Staffordshire-ish).
Given that it's a bit of a long drag to be sat on a dinky 125 and you might want a bit of poke for some fun on the twisties, probably a CB(F)250 or the like? Maybe some kind of 300 or even 400? CB500/GS500 at the extreme?
Really, the question is how much of the capability of your TT do you currently use. Use that to figure out about how much oomph you need as a minimum. Then you've got a smaller pool to choose from, because right now if all you do is cruise it, a 100cc scoot may well do the business for you.
It does sound a bit like trying to decide which muscle car or sportscar to use for sitting in traffic jams and going to the supermarket at the moment. However if you do occasionally let the machine's hair down on the rural bits, then a bit more speed may be worth a little extra cost. Especially if it's kinda hilly and you'd otherwise be stuck plugging away in 3rd or 4th gear to maintain 40. Say, something equivalent to an Elise or whatever. (Ninja 250?)
Thoughts on the consumption, if you're bothered by that (getting 40-45mpg, which I could achieve in a midsize 5 seat petrol fuelled car under those conditions, suggests probably not?) ... 50 miles a day... at 50mpg average that's a gallon a day, 5 per week, ~21 per month. 95 litres, about £130. More than £1500 a year. Maybe £1800 at your stated economy... £2000+ if it goes any lower. That you don't want to spend more than that selfsame £2000 on the machine itself makes me wonder if you've realised how much your current fuel budget is?
A 250 driven with such conservatism might save you five hundred quid a year, if that's of any import... |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 110 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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