Is Q-reg a problem?

[ScooterDad]

The story so far - daughter mangled her Vespa ET4 frame in an accident. DOH!!!
Found similar bike for spares on ebay - stolen recovered.. Hmmm...
DVLA told me over phone it would be no problem to change the frame and amend VIN number on V5 - I believed her and went ahead. I suspect I'm the idiot here

DVLA now tell me after an inspection that it can only be registered as Q reg.

What impact will this have on the value of the vespa (which I think would have been about £600-700), and what other issues might potential buyer have with it - insurance? etc.

Has anybody got any experience of buying or selling a Q reg which is otherwise a standard model with original parts albeit from 2 bikes?

Thanks

[soforene]

No impact at all.

Until you come to sell it.
Then there'll be lots of "Hmmmmmming" and "aaaaahhhhhing" over the price because people will always suspect the worst case scenario (and that's if they even come to view it).

[bikertomm]

Sorry mate, absaloutely no idea of Q plates.


Pics of said daughter so we can asess?
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[Nope.]

This is why most people just put the engine from the crashed bike into the new frame and tell the DVLA that you've changed the engine and update the engine number on the V5.

Yes, having a Q Plate will negatively affect resale value. Wether or not it affects the insurance price depends on the insurer, but some just won't cover Q plates at all which obviously affects the range of insurers that you have to choose from.

And yes, I agree with Tom, pics of daughter are required.
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[RichieZX6R]

[ScooterDad]

Thanks All! Unfortunately she is selling it - doesn't need it any more!

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[MarJay]

There is a problem and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it.

Hardly any insurer will touch it as a Q plate, and you'll probably have a 3-500% loading on the cost of a policy. Q plates rarely put buyers off, until they get an insurance quote.
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[69chris]

as above regards insurance but a Q also has a plus in that....

Q’ plate registration is issued if the machine is of ’indeterminate age’. For MOT Testing purposes assume the machine to have been first used on Ist January 1971.

a plus if you happen to like slightly noisy pipes, black number plates, no indicators etc etc

[Shaft]

Can you not just apply for a V5 for the stolen bike, using it's VIN and index, then claim that to have been rebuilt?
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[_Iain_]

Realy, you need a frame with v5. Get em off ebay.

Then scrap the old frame, build the bike into the new frame & run it on the registration & logbook the new frame comes with. As far as anyones concerned if the numbers dont match up, it had an engine change. You restored an old bike.

Simples.
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[dangerousdave]

My Thunderace is on a Q-plate because we swapped the frame over, and fell into the same trap of updating the frame number on the v5 thinking all would be fine.

The problem with this is insurance price. It went up by 40% in my case when the Q-plate was issued.
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[Easter Bunny]

I had a Q plate car for a few years got done over every year for the insurance, its about 25-30% more, very limited amount of insurance companies will touch
Good Luck I wouldn't have another
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