DVLA improving TAX system?

[st3v3]

Seen here, and not apparently posted yet:

[Rogue_Shadow]

would rather a cheaper tax than another system

[Rogerborg]

Would rather they sacked off this continuous insurance tosh altogether, rather than defending it by saying that it might, maybe, provide some tiny bit of convenience at some indeterminate point in the future.

If it's got one uninsured vehicle off the roads, I'll eat my lid.
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I agree with the above that they should look at ending the Continuous Insurance farce.

I for one find it very inconvenient and I think it must be costing money without giving any benefit. If it wasn't for the insurance companies being hand in glove with the government (there is another analogy that's more appropriate) because they want money then there would be no point. It causes the law abiding inconvenience and those that would drive knowingly without insurance/tax still do so anyhow.

Is there any figures on how effective it is. I'm obviously thinking lies, damn lies and statistics here.

It is costing money because I may have to go through the hassle of getting money back by returning a 125cc tax disc if I SORN a bike. So that's a part refund from £16 with all the administration costs and my time and effort. Why, for the love of God, why do I have to jump through these hoops and have my taxes wasted?

Second example, pay insurance on a bike/car and fails MOT. So can't tax it. Must SORN it if no tax but it is still insured and insurance make you pay through the nose to cancel (say £50+ plus elapsed months) because they don't want people to cancel insurance (italics is a quote from insurance company guy).

On sort of topic I know the Road Traffic Act now allows you to show your insurance documents electronically to the police. However, I have proof that Greater Manchester Police do not accept this. They do not even acknowledge that amendment to the law exists. Shame I can't seem to get anyone in the legal profession interested in a perverting the course of justice charge.



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[DonDino]

[blurredman]

I still think they should re-new the cubic capacity margins they tax from.

150-400 is way too large a margin.. It's all a money scam
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[Joncrete Cungle]

Like criminals will bother with laws like insurance and vehicle excise duty. Much quicker, simpler and cheaper to clone a plate from a legal similar vehicle and drive round using that. Ticks all the ANPR boxes, shit you can even check on ask MID if it is insured or not.

With the numbers of traffic officers round here having almost halved in the last 20 years what are the chances of getting caught provided you don't pick up any speeding / parking tickets that might alert the real registered keeper to the fact his plate has been cloned?

[DonDino]

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[Rogerborg]

[DonDino]

[DonDino]

[Walloper]

[Rogerborg]

And you can thank the MID and continuous insurance for the extra costs that have made day insurance non viable.

eBike's monthly cover is reportedly extortionate as well.

Best option is to find the insurer with the lowest set up costs, go with them, then cancel within 14 days. They can't (by law) charge a "cancellation" fee within that time, but they can charge the "reasonable" costs of setting up the policy. Enjoy that argument
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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[DonDino]

[Rogerborg]

[DonDino]

[Rogerborg]

That'd be an entirely separate civil matter, and people get ripped off by dealers every day. Did you see / were you given a certificate of insurance?

This isn't as hypothetically pedantic as it may seem. We've had folk being sent out for test rides on bikes with bare tyres. Trade insurance doesn't come cheap, many dealers are really struggling at the moment, and ethics become flexible when you're wondering whether you'll have a job at the end of the month.

Taking it on trust that they've kept their payments up to date, well, rather you than me.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[DonDino]

[Rogerborg]

Oh, Triumph, fine, they're rolling in it.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike