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What kind of bike you looking for and what kind of riding you are into? ____________________ MCForum meetup - One of the biggest motorcycle clubs in UK |
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Hang on, how old are you, and how are you intending to get your license?
The current 'standard' bike (121-125cc 100kph+) tests that get you the "A<=25kW" (33bhp) license are only available up to January 19th 2013. You'll really need to get a move on to get them passed in time.
If you miss that date, then your only real options are the new A2 35kW license (19+) or the new A3/A unrestricted license (24+).
There's no point in getting less license that you can afford, if for no other reason than that some insurers will screw you out of entitlement if and when you upgrade it and the DVLA reset your "From" date to when you obtained the new category.
If you can do DAS (either 21+ under the current rules or 24+ from next January), I'd say do it. <Tef>It's a FULL license, not a BIG BIKE license</Tef>. You'll get access to a much wider variety of bikes, including the sensible 500->650 commuters, and don't have to dick around with the hassle of restriction. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| siblo wrote: | I just thought doing a 33bhp licence and letting it mature after 2 years would be a cheaper option. |
It looks like it is, but then factor in the smaller choice of native 25kW bikes, or the cost of restriction, plus the ongoing insurance hassles.
Also, that 2 year restriction gets old quite fast.
I did it that way, but with hindsight I wish that I hadn't. 25kW is enough for UK road use, but only just.
As far as I can see, at our your age nothing will change with the 'big bike' aka A aka A3 tests between this year and next, except for a small chance that we might go back to a single on-road test rather than split into two modules. However, that'll be independent of the new licensing, and I personally doubt that it'll happen since the driving force behind it has been punted out of the DfT.
It'll still be CBT + motorcycle theory practical test or tests, and should cost much the same now or then. The only difference is that it might be done on a slightly bigger bike e.g. an ER-6n rather than the last of the 500 twins.
tl;dr version - riding a 125 to get experience or for bargain basement commuting =
Doing your tests on it when you have another option =  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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ive the same predicament as the OP.
Am 31 so the age bits dont apply to me too
Got My own CBF125. used it for 3000 miles basically every day since april & been on some very long journeys (300 miles) trips too.
sat mod 1 on it, came off it on mod 2 broken my arm at the shoulder joint about 3 weeks ago. its going to take my muscles a while to heal properly still. im just gratefull there was someone who knew what to do at the time, as i couldnt move myself. the bike was only slightly scuffed. The weathers not so nice in glasgow in december by the time im fit to resit this/get a slot.
I spoke to the dsa today, if i get a slot great (and i was 80% done on the last outing with 2 minors i was advised before the incident), if not ill just do DAS in springtime intensivley. MY main reason for avoiding DAS is that ive my own bike which is new, and saves a bit on lessons just now. 2 years isnt too long to wait for a derestriction, as the majority of our roads are 30/40 anyway though top speed for me is 55ish, 60 at max throttle/screaming engine since im not so small/light. id like to go faster, though motorway acess would be helpfull for a number of routes i reguarly do. (M8, M74, M77) when i do pass.
thing is after the 3dld bits come in ill sit the same test/route etc for the same money, and never be able to ride on a 600/650cc for example. and if i do ill have to go back to a school to get the lessons to use the bike during the test + , even if i wanted a larger bike entitlement the next day after passing on a 125.
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| corrsfan wrote: | The weathers not so nice in glasgow in december by the time im fit to resit this/get a slot. |
Oh, how I wish I'd taken pictures of my Mod 2. Genuine blizzard, I had to scrape the slush off of my bike to show the front L plate at the test centre (Glasgow, snap). Thing is, I think it helped me. The examiner followed in a car, which I think makes it easier, and I strongly suspect that I got a "You rode here through that?" pre-emptive pass.
| corrsfan wrote: | 2 years isnt too long to wait for a derestriction, |
That's what I told myself. To be fair, I didn't start to get properly itchy for a year, but you really do start counting down towards the end.
That said, 25kW is fine for UK road use. Get your license now and buy my GPz305.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| siblo wrote: | I'm looking for a sports tourer sort of thing, with a more sat up position. NOT a sports bike.
I'm over 40 so the age restriction thing does not apply, but I'm in no rush to get a much bigger bike, might even keep my 125 for another year before moving up.
I just thought doing a 33bhp licence and letting it mature after 2 years would be a cheaper option. |
So basically you are window shopping - an iminant puchase isn't a near term possibility, becouse you need to get the licence sorted first.
SO that nugget filed, stop wasting time window shopping; get on the theory/hazard revision discs, get on DSA webby and start booking test slots, to get everything in place before January...
After Jan no matter how old you are, testing for 'restricted' licence on a 125 wont be happening for any-one; you'd have to test under das for full A on a big bilke, if they allow it, test on an almost as big bike if they off Direct Access to A2, but that wont automatically upgrade, you'd have to repeat to get the restriction lifted.
As for bikes; my favourite first big-bike at the moment is the Kawasaki ER5... its unfaired commuter-twin, easily restricted to 33bhp, and possibly takes restriction slightly better than more sporty GPz500 its engine is based on, as its already de-tuned 20% for more mid-range & ecconomy, and prices are a bit of a bargain on them at the moment.
The other 'usual suspects' in class as the GS500, CB500, GPz500, SV650. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 115 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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