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 Posted: 13:49 - 26 Oct 2012 Post subject: Steering Wheelies |
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So, I can now sufficiently keep the front wheel off the ground for a reasonable amount of time.
How do I start to steer them? I'm not talking about crazy amounts just a little bit to keep the wheelie on course etc.
 ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
Bikes: 2007 Derbi GPR 50, 1998 Yamaha Fazer 600 (written off), 2002 Yamaha Fazer 600, 1994 CBR 600F, 2003 Triumph Daytona 600, Kawasaki ZX6R J1.....Current: 2006 Yamaha FZ6, 1998 Suzuki TL1000R and a Honda VFR 400 NC30. |
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Use your rear handlebars obviously
I see them turning their wheel at the front which seems to alter the weight slightly to turn, but could mess up on land I guess ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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 Posted: 19:19 - 26 Oct 2012 Post subject: |
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hijacking your thread but...
what is the easiest way to wheelie?
I am worried about dropping the clutch and taking the bike too far over and wrecking it
Never ever had an accidental power wheelie either, previous bikes, thundercat, '05 z750 and current bike is a '03 daytona 600 ____________________ Ex bikes: 05 Suzuki En 125, '98 Yamaha Thundercat, '08 Honda cbr125, '05 Kawasaki z750, '03 Triumph Daytona 600, '91 Kawasaki ex250, '03 Hyosung Comet 125
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| grant965 wrote: | hijacking your thread but...
what is the easiest way to wheelie?
I am worried about dropping the clutch and taking the bike too far over and wrecking it
Never ever had an accidental power wheelie either, previous bikes, thundercat, '05 z750 and current bike is a '03 daytona 600 |
Don't worry about over cooking it. Unless you're really nailing it, once the front comes up for the first time you'll shit yourself and put it back down. It'll feel like you 12 oclocked it... really you may have gotten the front wheel a foot off the ground. ____________________ 2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900 |
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I thought this topic was going to be about when people racing somehow wheelie while still leaned over coming out of a turn always wondered how they do that! |
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 Posted: 23:34 - 27 Oct 2012 Post subject: |
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| grant965 wrote: | hijacking your thread but...
what is the easiest way to wheelie?
I am worried about dropping the clutch and taking the bike too far over and wrecking it
Never ever had an accidental power wheelie either, previous bikes, thundercat, '05 z750 and current bike is a '03 daytona 600 |
First thing you want to do, is find yourself a straight bit of road that's national speed limit with a set of traffic lights on it or a place where you can safely stop and rejoin the road.
Practise canning it in first gear, accelerating harder and harder earlier each time and get used to the feeling of the front coming off the ground and putting it back down again. Make sure you sit right back in the seat. The bike will lift the front on the power in first, I had one and I did! If its not coming up on the power, you need to sit further back and stop leaning over the front.
Keep doing this, until you're keeping the wheel off the ground for a couple of seconds and try to get the front up as much as you can.
Once you're used to that feeling, accelerate to about 40mph in second gear. When you get to 40, accelerate hard and just flick the clutch. Don't worry about flipping it, you won't. You probably won't even get the wheel off the ground. Once you've done that, do it again but give the throttle a tiny blip when you slip the clutch. Keep practising that with the blip getting bigger and bigger, until you start to raise the front consistently and to a consistent height. Make sure you cover the front brake, and if you have any moments, USE IT!
That is the trick ^^. Just everwhere you go and get a small bit of a straight or whatever, clutch the front up. Its not about being on the back wheel for ages at that point, and if you rush it, you will stack it.
When you get good at that you'll naturally want to accelerate into the wheelie when the front comes up and gradually they will get bigger and bigger. A good place to aim to get the bike to, is so the clocks are on the horizon, and don't worry about the bike being to high until you have to look round the side of the fairing.
Don't think you can learn to do it over night, because you can't. Its taken me 4 months odd, of regular practise to get to the point of being able to keep the front off the ground for 10 seconds at a decent height. The only thing that's letting me down now is me not being able to steer the bike very well and so having to put the front down to regain steering.
Its a long process, and I am by far no expert but I do intend to keep practising until I am! ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
Bikes: 2007 Derbi GPR 50, 1998 Yamaha Fazer 600 (written off), 2002 Yamaha Fazer 600, 1994 CBR 600F, 2003 Triumph Daytona 600, Kawasaki ZX6R J1.....Current: 2006 Yamaha FZ6, 1998 Suzuki TL1000R and a Honda VFR 400 NC30. |
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Don't forget life savers when you switch lanes  ____________________ m0l0t0v wrote: Chris, just so you know, JD is a nutter
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| 0l0dom0l0 wrote: |
Make sure you cover the front brake, and if you have any moments, USE IT! |
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Haha just noticed that but meant the rear brake  ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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 Posted: 21:13 - 28 Oct 2012 Post subject: |
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You need to be able to wheelie indefinitely before you consider trying to steer and change lanes etc.
But once you are comfortable sitting at a set speed on the back wheel, you can use counter steering to change lanes etc.
Only while the front wheel is still spinning though.
On the YZF450, after about 3/4 mile, the front wheel would eventually stop spinning, meaning you have to lean / hang off to change lanes on the bike.
It also makes landing it a little interesting, especially when doing triple figures.
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To be fair, since selling the 450F, I've not bothered with them. I can manage 2nd to 4th on the R1, but cant settle down with speed, so keep accelerating, which isn't nice. Once it gets to about 140, I put the front down. DO NOT LIKE.  |
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Is this thread a guessing game or something? ____________________ Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 119 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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