Cbt and training ?

[new001]

How many people do their cbt go out and ride a 125 unsupervised for example on L plates for months,years without any further training other than cbt ? Is it not crazy to think that just 2 hours supervised on road during the cbt is all it takes to let someone legally unsupervised out on the road on L plates.


Is it possible to teach yourself to ride to somewhere near test standard without training if all you got is a cbt cert and a 125 on L plates ?

[Knightsy]

I did that and I'm sure there's quite a lot of folks around here with similar expirience.

I've spent few months on the CBR, commuting back and forth on L's and took the test when I felt I could do it.
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[Teflon-Mike]

Maybe only half of 125 CBT students, will ever go on to get a motorbike licence, if that.

Over half the bikes on DVLA records as taxed for road use, I seem to recall are Learner-Legal, and most are presumed to be being ridden on L-Plates.

So a very significant majority of riders either only ride for a couple of years on L's and give up, or perpetually L-Plate repeating CBT every two years.

There is very little take up of post CBT training on 125's and over half of Test candidates I believe these days elect to go DAS.

So, of the half of CBT candidates who ever go on to get a licence a fair proportion of them perpetualy-plate for four five years or more, then Do DAS.

I think it was commented on that something like less than 1 in 10 125'ers will ever take ANY post CBT instruction, and of those that do, few will do more than one or two brush-up lessons just before their tests

[symonh2000]

I know that it sounds a bit scary being allowed on the road with only 2 hours CBT on road experience, but in the old days there wasn't even a CBT and you could ride up to 250cc on L plates.

Accident rates among learners have fallen a lot since then, so it could be argued that the CBT does what it was intended to do.

I think it is great being allowed onto the road so that you can learn yourself, rather than having to do it under supervision like you would in a car.


For me I think I learn a lot better by myself and at my own speed rather than having an instructor telling me all the time.
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[Rogerborg]

[cimbian]

Probably not the most popular of answers but WTH!

Yes it is crazy to go from a basic CBT to being let loose on any road bar motorways in any weather at anytime of day with no evidence that the 'rider' has the faintest clue about the H.C. or even basic roadcraft. I think CBT is a great idea but should require a theory pass, IMHO as the only thing you can fail is the eyesight test.

I am a huge fan of proper training and would generally recommend that someone go to a recommended school and learn properly. A good school will provide suitable gear, machinery and a lot more than how to pass a test.

The school I used in Portsmouth also hire the MOD1 test centre as part of the DAS so you get to practice the real thing, including the speed meters. After I passed my Mod 2 I had the option to remove the radio but declined (I would've got last) and benefitted from another hour of instruction even now being a licence holder.

Frankly, the most difficult thing to do is to unlearn bad habits and it is likely these that will be the undoing under test conditions... Don't develop them and you don't need to unlearn them!
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