Bugs on a dog

[Marmalade]

Been away for a week and left dog at the kennels we always use and he's come back riddled with bugs.

The kennels say none of theirs have any

We flea treated him 4 weeks ago and since returning on sat plus washed all his bedding, combed and bathed him in medicated shampoo and been hoovering (not the dog) but checking him tonight we've still found a couple and there are bound to be more.

Some quite bad pics of one below, any idea what it is and how to get rid of?
Thinking best to get him to the vet for a proper sort out.

https://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo141/bramble43/bug3.jpg

https://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo141/bramble43/bug1.jpg

https://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo141/bramble43/bug2.jpg
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[CaNsA]

They are not bugs, they are deffo fleas which are parasites.

Frontline Spot-on + that spray stuff round the edge of the room and hoover every day for about a week or more. I cant remember for how long.

Dont forget to do the animals sleeping places too.

the only guaranteed way of sorting it out is....
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Cat fleas.

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[Marmalade]

Seemed too big to be fleas and they don't jump like fleas usually do.

Washed his bedding yesterday.

Frontline was done 4 weeks ago and again yesterday.
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[CaNsA]

[hedgehugger]

Sure look like fleas.
Maybe they are dying and sluggish due to being frontlined?

Try and get some flea powder in the hoover, so that when they get hoovered up from the floor etc they have further bombardment.

You do have to treat the house as well as the dog though, otherwise you'll be stuck in a horrendous cycle of seemingly never-ending flea killing.

[Poseidon]

My mum's dog picked up a nasty flea infestation a while back and frontline didn't touch 'em. Another dog she looks after from time to time (probably the one that brought them into her house) also had fleas that frontline didn't shift. When she went down the vets, there was several other dog owners, all there with a flea infested pooch, and all of them saying frontline doesn't work.

Took my dog to hers when I was there a couple of weeks back the the little scruff-bag has been scratching nonstop over the last week. Tried to get some more of his usual treatment (program pills) as he was due it a couple of days ago and everywhere was completely sold out! So I've plumped for some advantage spot-on, as it seems to get pretty good reviews from the people at the park. Also bought some Acclaim aerosol room de-flea spray.

From this I would deduce that a) the bloodsucking little critters are causing problems everywhere and b) frontline isn't proving very effective against this current wave of parasite!

Gutted about program being sold out as we've used it for years on Dylan and never seen a flea on him!
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[WannaBeDude]

Theres a newer version of frontline out thats supposed to work, forgot the additional name.

I nave adv, although it does not treat some internal parasites. I also use red mite powder.

Other than that i use stronghold, but its pricey.

Use milbemax aswell. And buy a tick tool 2 !
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[yambabe]

Deffo cat fleas, frontline deffo doesn't work on them any more in our house either

I use Advantage now, so far it's been effective on the cats and the dog.

I get it from here:

https://www.vetuk.co.uk/flea-treatments-advantage-flea-control-c-3_660
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[Kradmelder]

it is a flea.

You need to dip the dog and frontline, and do the house. Fumitabs work well if you get them in the UK. put on a brick, light, and leave the house for a few hours. It kills everything. Repeat in one week when the eggs you didnt get hatch and before the next generation of parasites lays eggs.

https://www.efekto.co.za/our-products/for-the-home/fumitabs-2/

must be a similar product in the UK, unless gassing the bastards offends some PC liberal who thinsk fleas have rights.
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[yambabe]

Which bit of "Frontline doesn't work on the current breed of cat fleas" did you not read Krad?

I don't know if the fleas have evolved a resistance to it or they have changed the formulation but I can 100% guarantee that Frontline will not touch the critters that Marm posted a pic of, and it hasn't for about 18 months.

Even the spray that you can still only get on prescription from the vet here (which was always more effective than the spot-on on my dog) doesn't cut it any more.

Use Advantage (or there's another one beginning with A that I haven't tried yet whose name escapes me, your vet will know), wash all the bedding AFTER you have done the dog and get a household spray such as Staykil on the bedding, any spots where the dog sleeps regularly, and the edges of your carpets and you should be OK.
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[CaNsA]

[Islander]

Forget fumitabs and all that crap and understand the flea lifecycle. They stay on the animal long enough to get the blood meal they need to produce eggs, then hop off and find somewhere to lay the buggers. You can treat the dog but you'll also need to get the eggs and larvae that are off the dog. Your hoover is your friend here, hoover all the floors and carpets thoroughly paying particular attention to nooks and crevices (skirting board gaps and the like). Repeat regularly. Wash all the bedding and hoover soft furnishings.

Frontline isn't the panacaea it used to be - probably because it's been overused. The hormone based treatments are the ones to go for. They work by disrupting the growth of the egg tooth so that the flea can't hatch.

[CaNsA]

Depends if its a cat flea or a dog flea.
One stays on the animal, the other hops on and off.

[EazyDuz]

This is why i dont want any pets.
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[shereen]

Looks more like lice than a flea

https://lakesidevet.com/lice.htm

Just saying.....
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[CaNsA]

Lice are generally flat and wide with tiny legs.

Fleas are thin-ish with long back legs.

[Recluso]

They're fleas.

Most important part of treatment is treating the house and soft furnishings.

- Wash ALL animal bedding on a 60*C wash (50+ otherwise it won't kill the eggs). Any loose covers the dog comes into contact with such as bedding, cushions, chairs etc also need washing. Anything with a fixed cover needs a good spraying.

- Treat all carpets etc with a spray such as this. Do NOT use the stuff like Johnson's, Beaphar etc that you can buy from places like Pets at Home as they're pretty much useless.

- Hoover thoroughly EVERY DAY with a flea collar in the bag/whatever as this will kill anything you hoover up. Collar can be a cheapo Bob Martin or whatever as it's not going to be in contact with the animal. You're going to want to hoover until the infestation is gone. Fleas have (on average depending on house conditions) a 10 day cycle. Most aren't on the animal, they're in the carpets. That's why treating the house is so important.


Regarding the whole 'frontline is crap' debate. There IS speculation that fleas are becoming resistant to the active ingredient fipronil. I would consider either a frontline 'spray' which coats the animal entirely or use a spot-on such as Fiproline or Advantage as the compound is slightly different. If it's a bad infestation, the full body spray (except eyes etc obv) may prove more effective than a spot-on as they're more of a 'sustained' treatment rather than an aggressive 'shit we've got beasties' one.

- Comb the dog daily and deposit any fleas into hot water that has a spot of washing up liquid in it (this breaks the surface tension and drowns the fleas faster).

- As you've bathed him, do NOT apply any flea treatment for roughly 3 days after bathing as you'll have stripped the oils from his skin/fur that the treatment absorbs into and it will be virtually ineffective.

If you do all this and after a couple of weeks are still having major critter issues, consider consulting the vet for more aggressive treatment options.

HTH (and that you get rid of them!)
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[Vincent]

I rented a cottage once and got it cheap on the understanding that I was to wipe out the flea infestation. The previous tenants were in the ALF and used the cottage as a "refuge" for rescued animals they even had a pit pony in the back yard. I soon realised that these weren't just cat and dog fleas but rat fleas These were much bigger, (you can actually see them clearly when jumping), and more docile. I had to strip the cottage of all furniture and carpets, (previous owners had not cleared up the dog shit, instead, they had just layed an old rug on top - there were about 5 layers of "shit sandwich" carpets!)
Anyway, after trying a lot of different chemicals, none of which did anything, the one that worked was called "Nuvan Top"* and only available from vets. There's Nuvan Top to kill the fleas, and Nuvan Stay Kill to spray around the skirting boards etc.
The infestation in this case drove my mate around the bend and he moved out to let me get on with it. If you left a saucer of water out over night, it'd be floating with fleas in the morning, not good. As someone has mentioned, you have to kill off all the eggs, these are layed in dry, warm areas, skirting boards being the most common. Good luck

*; This was quite a few years ago now so there might be something better or an improved formula for Nuvan.

As a side note, over the years, I've seen dogs that have been infested with fleas and the owners doing nothing or, trying a cheap solution that doesn't work and then giving up. It's extremely uncomfortable for the dog and can eventually drive the poor animal insane.
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