Ticket Error

[bikerboy777]

Got a roadside fixed penalty this morning for overtaking normal huge queue of traffic going into my place of work town, done it a million times but this morning the nice man pulled me over and gave me the ticket and 'produce your licence' instruction.

I think I'm just going to pay up and eat the 3 points because my photo licence is 3 years out of date.

My questions are:

1. Should I have sent off my licence when I passed my Mod1 & Mod2 a year or so ago?

2. The Officer made an error when writing my address on the ticket, mis-spelled the street name ~ I read in the press often that appeals are often upheld on technicalities like this or am I just living in cloud cuckoo land?

If I elect to go to court rather than pay up the fine do I run the risk of copping a £1,000 fine for an out of date licence?

Bare in mind that I did my CBT, Mod 1 & Mod 2 with the same licence but the DoT didn't pick it up or raise any issue.

Can of worms?

[yaigi]

[Andy_Pagin]

[map]

Out of interest what was the offence code?

Plus you could always ask on Pepipoo.
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[bikerboy777]

Aye, not ruffling feathers does seem the best approach here.

"Overtaking Double Solid White Lines" and the code looks like 1209 or T209

[stinkwheel]

[bikerboy777]

Looks like the 3 points and £60 are the least of my worries. No, I didn't receive a new full licence after passing my bike test but that was only 1 year or so ago so I can address that I guess.

Didn't have a clue you had to 'claim your pass'. I got the pass certificate and thought that was valid enough.

Best I get some forms filled in!

Thanks for the info.

[Rogerborg]

[yen_powell]

[yen_powell]

[bikerboy777]

Can of worms?[/quote]
Have you got a link to Google streetview where the double white line is? Might be something wrong with it technically, worth a look if half your licence is at stake with three points (unless you already had a full licence for more than two years on another category).[/quote]



https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=dredgeman%27s+hill&aq=f&sugexp=chrome,mod%3D0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl

He was stood just where the red car is further down but says he'd been observing me coming down what is a large hill.

Sending off licence to DVLA today to get it renewed (3 years out of date). The adviser I spoke to said the Police CAN fine me and may well do, but send off my licence because they have an outstanding test notification for my bike test on file where apparently the examiner was supposed to send off my pass certificate after my test so a new licence could be issued but DIDN'T. All news to me but they said to apply for an extension to the 7 days so I can present my shiny new licence

[yaigi]

[bikerboy777]

[Rogerborg]

OK, the technicality is that "if it is safe to do so and if necessary to do so" then you can travel on the RHS of the solid line "in order to pass a stationary vehicle" (Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 s26 6 b)

The bolded words are key. Desire is not necessity, and stationary is not necessarily the same as stopped in traffic. PePiPoo or specialist motoring solicitor, although it's a big stretch to imagine you'd sneak that past some Jaaaaag driving Magistrates.
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[bikerboy777]

Had 10 points on my licence until about 6-7 years ago, did a lot of motorway driving but been points free since about 2005. I'll take the £60 and the 3 points although I only take the bike to avoid the bloody queues on this notorious road so I'll probably use the back road into town now and hope there's no donut eating cops around with their speed guns early in the morn on that road.

My priority now is to get an extension to the 7 days by telling the local station that I have sent off my licence to get it renewed (3 years out of date but the copy this morning didn't pick that up thank god and I won't be telling the local station that) and to get my bike validation put on it. Had a 125 for first year, passed Mod 1 & 2 about a year ago so once my licence is in order, with the 3 points I'll go on from there nice and clean with crossed fingers

[Matt B]

"Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less."
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26

If you want to get technical about the wording - did you actually cross or stradle the line, or did you squeeze down inside it?
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[yen_powell]

Can you give an exact location. If it is the welshy one found by Map then what you are being done for doesn't make sense.
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[yaigi]

I hope you get it sorted, lets just cross our fingers that the DVLA don't cock it up cos this sounds far too complicated for them (and yes, I know it's ACTUALLY not complicated at all but from what I've read on here they manage to fuck em even the simplest of tasks!)
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[Rogerborg]

[yen_powell]

I was thinking more of the double white line system being non-compliant with the regs.
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[bikerboy777]

[bikerboy777]

[quote=Anyway, I re-iterate that it was (most likely) a fair cop, and should probably be taken on the chin. [/quote]


yeah, it just grates you know. the old cliche of 'haven't they got anything better to do with kids being raped by famous dj's...." etc etc blah blah.

seriously though, with all the cutbacks you'd think this was low priority stuff.

[bikerboy777]