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J.M.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't declare locks. The insurance saving is minimal for me and it means that I don't need to worry about forgetting my locks when going out.

I use an unbranded chain and a CISA75 padlock.

The most insurance discount I could get for adding a chain was about £40, I think.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's due to Thatcham approval - https://www.thatcham.org/security/pdfs/categories/MotorcyclesCAT3.pdf

Your non branded chains might stand up to a chainsaw or just as equally be cut up by a butter knife; the insurer won't have any data on it and, therefore, will not reduce premium / provide theft cover accordingly.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ollie1995 wrote:
I'd probably do the same but due to costs (me being 17) I'm going for third party only so it's a must really.


I'm 18, will be 19 when renewing my insurance. Locks really don't make much difference to my insurance price Smile

Try running a quote with and without a lock declared. I just personally enjoy the peace of mind that if my bike is stolen and I wasn't using a lock, I have nothing to worry about Smile

Also check TPFT. TPFT is cheaper for me on 99% of quotes than TPO.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy security on the basis of it stopping your bike from being stolen, rather than what it does to your insurance price. If you bike gets stolen anyway, that'll screw up your insurance premium for a while. Better to not have it stolen at all, IMO.

(We've had two scooters stolen from me while I had FC insurance (Yamaha deal with the scooters). I don't do FC any more.)
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

barrkel wrote:
Buy security on the basis of it stopping your bike from being stolen, rather than what it does to your insurance price.


This is the decision I came to - I got TPO as it's chained & alarmed to the hilt at home and won't get nicked, and it's left around with a disk lock/alarm when unattended - and not for long either.

A stolen bike is incovenient apart from anything else, it's easier to just get some decent chainage - there are a few choice threads around here regarding those.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you declare locks... Your insurance is cheaper.

If your bike is stolen, the locks would be stolen too.

Make them prove you never had them.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't declare my locks, for some stupid reason many comparison sites don't have an Almax or Pragmasis as options for your security chain. Rolling Eyes Makes minimal difference to my quotes so I don't bother telling the insurance company about them. If the bike gets nicked without the padlock and chain fitted I am still covered. Bollocks to giving the bastard insurance companies another excuse to try and screw you over. Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
If you declare locks... Your insurance is cheaper.

If your bike is stolen, the locks would be stolen too.

Make them prove you never had them.


With respect, it'd be a bit nutty to go that route. The insurance saving is negligible and the odds of getting caught out could be quite high. For a start, if you declare you had an ACME chain then you'd need to find an ACME key if your bike went missing, as the key doesn't go walkies with the lock and the bike. Secondly, any shred of CCTV / witness evidence that contradicts your story is going to see the fraud condition enacted. It's a fairly big gamble to take for not a lot of dosh.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

on another point, some of the more expensive chains have their own guarantee/insurance with them, meaning if your bike goes walkies whilst you were using the chain, you'll probably get your excess back from the chain company.
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a heavy duty chain witha big padlock.It is non branded.
It was cheaper on my insurance not to declare it.figure that.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, just experimented with a 1999 GSXR6. £178.24 TPFT with oxford chain and disc lock. £178.24 without Laughing Not sure if that's a reflection on the oddities of the Insurance companies or the shitness of Oxford products Very Happy
To be fair, the disclock I have seems fine...
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