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Twisted2004
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Stolen : Honda Fireblade 2008 Reply with quote

Was nicked today from a car park near Lewisham high street.

Almax series 3 chain round the rear wheel and lampost.

Motrax Vishas disc lock on front disc.

Bike and chain all gone!

Just goes to show if some scummer wants your bike they'll take it!

....suppose I'll have to use the 125!
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They stole the bike and the chain? They must have had a van nearby to bundle it in cause they wouldn't have been able to wheel it far, especially with a disclock too.

Don't suppose the carpark had cctv or anything that might show up what happened?
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are professionals if they managed to get it with an almax and get it out of there! probably going to be broken up for parts, just goes to show even the most expensive security is only a deterrent and not a safeguard
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh unlucky mate, get the reg and a pic up, seriously, my R1 got nicked and I had someone local email me with a lead! You never know! Wink
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

This country is full of filth. If they ever catch these people, they should stand them before a firing squad.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vracktal wrote:
They stole the bike and the chain? They must have had a van nearby to bundle it in cause they wouldn't have been able to wheel it far, especially with a disclock too.


The chain was around the lamppost too though!

They either had to cut the chain/padlock or cut the lamppost to load it in to a van!
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't help but it was most probably something like this, so fast most don't recognise. Quick snap of the chain and off they go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy0c8nsb4cw
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't quickly snap an Almax chain if it's properly anchored.

Were you using the Squire padlock? If so they likely would have needed powertools to get through that, definitely worth inquiring around as someone surely must have seen/heard something.
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not good Sad

I'd of thought they would have just taken the rear wheel out (one spindle) rather than attempt to go through the chain.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seb wrote:
You don't quickly snap an Almax chain if it's properly anchored.

Were you using the Squire padlock? If so they likely would have needed powertools to get through that, definitely worth inquiring around as someone surely must have seen/heard something.


Did you see the video that was posted on here a while back?

The guy gets through about 20 chains with bolt croppers, Almax, Oxford.... all the big names with the longest one taking like 30 seconds.

More concerning the chain I spent 70 quid on lasted about 2 seconds Shocked.

Sorry to hear about the bike, can't believe it was locked up as well!
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwankers!
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

0l0dom0l0 wrote:
Did you see the video that was posted on here a while back?

The guy gets through about 20 chains with bolt croppers, Almax, Oxford.... all the big names with the longest one taking like 30 seconds.


If it was the captain cropper one, he never got through the Almax if I remember right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpf35C7wu6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozppzywsLsk

If it's properly anchored I suspect it'd be quicker to just take the rear wheel off and leave it behind Neutral
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am very interested to know how they got through the Almax chain?

Worrying as lewisham is only round the corner from me and the fact they got through an Almax is worring as it makes me wonder how long it took for them to get through it.

As said before it would have seemed easier to just take the back wheel off but the fact they took the whole bike and the chain is worrying.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was it a proper lampost or a post for a sign?

I've seen scooters lifted up 4' so chains can be unlooped before..
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
I am very interested to know how they got through the Almax chain?...

I'm thinking this is probably why they took it with them.

Could have been the chain, could have been the lock.

On topic, hope bike found and the insurance aren't tools sorting claim.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

16 mm plus chains have sold in droves, tally that with peeps ignoring theft, and false white van number plates, then game has been upped, and sub min with a grinder is now the norm.

Also, said battery powered grinders now more powerfull and cheaper. Crying or Very sad

Take the chain to prevent prints and or practice on to get cut time down, and even sell on ebay for 60 quid easily.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was another one expecting you to have come back to a back wheel chained to the lamp post. Surprised Shocked Whole bike and chain gone! As others have said surely it would have been simpler to take the back wheel off. Van with some proper cutting gear inside parked in front of bike with the chain cut and bike loaded via sliding side door or something?

Robbing swines hope you get the bike back in good nick / the scumbags get caught and sent down!
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any point in all this security then? It seems like the only person you end up inconveniencing is yourself.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almax Series 3 are only 16 MM thick so easier to crop than 19MM which is the series 4.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almax state that their series 3 16mm cannot be cropped.

Guess Angle griders make quick work of anything
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that mate - the police will do fuck all if you didn't already know.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about the bike...

I'd say it was the bystander effect at work here.... nobody said/done anything because they expected someone else would. So it didn't matter how long they were hacking and smashing away at the chain/locks, the next person might say something
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seb wrote:
If it was the captain cropper one, he never got through the Almax if I remember right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpf35C7wu6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozppzywsLsk

If it's properly anchored I suspect it'd be quicker to just take the rear wheel off and leave it behind Neutral


Sorry, apologies. I got confused with the name!

My initial comment wasn't a pop at you by the way, when I read it again it sounded a bit 'short'. Was just a general Shocked from me about how the manufacturers can get away with selling the chains if they're that easy to cut.

The Almax is quite impressive to be fair. Still doesn't stop people getting through them though Sad
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proof that you need to spend money on security to stop it getting nicked in the first place, but also security to help you get it back if it does get taken.

GPS trackers are pretty cheap now, and home-improvised ones even cheaper. My old CB500 is a great bike to me but I doubt thieves would be too keen to nick it, but if I had a more expensive bike I'd definitely fit one.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
...GPS trackers are pretty cheap now, and home-improvised ones even cheaper. ...

Apology for taking thread off-topic and not knocking the sentiment but....

Are they reliable technology? Thinking if based on mobile phone then...
Arrow Transit van = metal cage = Faraday cage = no signal.
Arrow Freight container = metal cage = Faraday cage = no signal.
Arrow Industrial units now are metal boxes = Faraday cage = no signal.

If GPS based then do they not like a normal navigation GPS have to see the sky for satellite. So if inside do not work.

Just wondering if they are more of a peace of mind thing rather than an actual effective device.

As said just wanting clarification on effectiveness Thumbs Up
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