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PostPosted: 16:35 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: UK = highest tax in the world Reply with quote
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British families are the highest taxed in the world, earning only 27p out of every £1 they earn above the personal allowance.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/britain’s-families-are-‘most-taxed-on-the-planet’-141058367.html



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PostPosted: 16:56 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some sponging god botherers who live fat on 'Gift Aid' raped from my wallet wrote:
After the removal of benefits, Christian Action Research and Education calculated households take home just 27p for every £1 earned. This was based on a married couple, with two children, where one parent stays at home while the other goes to work, earning 75% of the average wage.

We're also one of the most pinko commie tax-and-redistribute countries in the world, so how about you don't just forget about benefits in order to push your bedroom-nursery-and-kitchen agenda, eh?

If you're asking me if I pay too much tax though, of course I bloody well do. If you want idea where to cut it, 'gift aid' tax bungs to bible bashers might be on the list.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
73%? Show your workings.

Never trust statistics put forward by lobby groups pushing an agenda using phrases like "after removing", "ingnoring", "taking such and such into account" etc.

After removing my salary I earn nothing. Therefore I pay infinity percent tax. Boo hoo me.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
When I worked in Holland I was taxed at 50% and that was before all the other shite. Car (road) tax was ~2500 Euros / Year - Tax on buying a new car is around 45% of the value of the car. You're also taxed on your world wide income/property.

Of course there's a twist to this, you get tax relief on interest payments and that's basically at the rate you are paying tax. So mortgage payments get relief, as do other loans.

This all worked really well during the boom times, then when everything fell apart in Europe ~2008 lots of people ended up with mortgages that were basically 99% interest payments. However, the tax office only only pay out at the end of the tax year. Lots of our neighbours went down horribly with this.


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PostPosted: 23:09 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
you get taxed on everything you do
tax is figured into everything you pay for at one point or another
sometimes you pay tax on tax they got you by the balls and theres nothing you can do about it

ScaredyCat
in another thread I got slated because I also pay tax on earnings I make via Holland
and don't pay it through the Uk income tax, but if I did I'd be better off
Dutch tax is pretty high on earnings and I don't have the benefit of deductibles as I live in the Uk
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PostPosted: 01:31 - 05 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
ScaredyCat wrote:
When I worked in Holland I was taxed at 50% and that was before all the other shite. Car (road) tax was ~2500 Euros / Year - Tax on buying a new car is around 45% of the value of the car. You're also taxed on your world wide income/property.


Hah, beat me to it. The tax rates in NL are atrocious! The only thing that made it worthwhile for me was the 30% tax free allowance for foreign skilled workers.

They pay such a lot over there and don't seem to get anything for it. Taxes are higher than the UK, but you still have to buy medical insurance and pay each time you go to a docs. You have to pay for refuse sacks - over €1 each. The road infrastructure is terrible for cars - constant commuter jams.

The UK is not that bad at all, yet more creative accounting!

Gross and net wages can be seen here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_net_average_wage

Looks like (without a calculator) the UK is a little under that 27% figure, NL is over 36% Shocked Belgium and Germany look high too.
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PostPosted: 01:36 - 05 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
oldpink wrote:
you get taxed on everything you do
tax is figured into everything you pay for at one point or another
sometimes you pay tax on tax they got you by the balls and theres nothing you can do about it

ScaredyCat
in another thread I got slated because I also pay tax on earnings I make via Holland
and don't pay it through the Uk income tax, but if I did I'd be better off
Dutch tax is pretty high on earnings and I don't have the benefit of deductibles as I live in the Uk


No, you got 'slated' because the way you drip fed info making it appear as though you didn't pay any tax at all on your foreign income. You still admitted to taking cash in hand though.

I was also suggesting you were like the people you were complaining about rather than actually slating you. Essentially I was saying a tax avoider shouldn't complain about the 'rich' doing their thing as you would seem just as bad to many...

<edit> and you wouldn't be better off as you now benefit from two sets of allowances (minimum earnings before you pay tax and progressive tax rates).
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 05 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
daemonoid wrote:

<edit> and you wouldn't be better off as you now benefit from two sets of allowances (minimum earnings before you pay tax and progressive tax rates).


not really the higher rate in holland takes out most of what I would benefit from
and I have to pay NI or Sofi as well in Holland, gain in one hand loose in another
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daemonoid
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 05 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
oldpink wrote:
not really the higher rate in holland takes out most of what I would benefit from
and I have to pay NI or Sofi as well in Holland, gain in one hand loose in another


You must earn a hell of a lot in NL if that's really the case! That makes your position of 'man of the people' raging against the establishment even more untenable.
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oldpink
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 06 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
no I earn a decent wage for what I do there
but as I don't live there I loose out on some tax deductible expenses
I could claim if I was living there

most likely after this year I will move everything back to the Uk
I'd love to live in Holland again but I doubt its going to happen in the near future
so it makes sense to move all my income to the Uk
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